YSR_Racer_99 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 New issue of Sportrider, thought the FZ1 was an SV... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fazerlady Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I like the slim look of the FZ1 better... :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 FZ1 is portly compared to the width of the SV, but the FZ is mo better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimoprime Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 it has more width becuase its a i4 instead of a twin. which BTW i'll take a i4 over a twin everyday. V-style engines FTL too many parts and not enough power. twins,v6,v8 i just dont get it inline is always best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 it has more width becuase its a i4 instead of a twin. which BTW i'll take a i4 over a twin everyday. V-style engines FTL too many parts and not enough power. twins,v6,v8 i just dont get it inline is always bestI've had quite a few V2s and I4s. I prefer the power delivery of twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINK Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 FZ1 is a much smoother and more rider friendly motorcycle compared to the SV.Both are fun and capable bikes in my opinion.The I-4 and the V-Twin debate, well again, just ones opinion on which is better...Personally I like both, and the Triple too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
600ZZ4eb Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 FZ1 is a much smoother and more rider friendly motorcycle compared to the SV.Both are fun and capable bikes in my opinion.The I-4 and the V-Twin debate, well again, just ones opinion on which is better...Personally I like both, and the Triple too.I guess ur qualified wit all the bikes n ur stable....variety is the spice of life! :-) i'd love to hv both the fz and sv.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accel_is_my_drug Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Technically speaking the bastard love child of an I4 and V2 is the best engine configuration. There is nothing better than a V4!I miss my old VFR quite dearly, with that being said, my next bike will be a FZ1.Not exactly sure why yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINK Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Technically speaking the bastard love child of an I4 and V2 is the best engine configuration. There is nothing better than a V4!I miss my old VFR quite dearly, with that being said, my next bike will be a FZ1.Not exactly sure why yet....I have yet to own a V4, but I have ridden a few, I almost pulled the trigger on an Interceptor and an RC51 a few times, I probably should have.The V4 that my focus is on now is the new Tuono, dealer support kind of sucks for Aprilia, and the price a bit steep, but man I like their bikes.The FZ1 is a great all around bike, of course only my opinion, I am not sure why more people do not consider them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 RC51 is a Twin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron505 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 The FZ1 is a great all around bike, of course only my opinion, I am not sure why more people do not consider them.Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Butters Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 V-engines are fun and torquey, but my next bike will be an I4...sucks redlining at 9k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accel_is_my_drug Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Oh My God I want that Aprilia Tuono RV4 so freaking bad it hurts! I would pipe bomb a arctic beach full of baby seals and grade school aged orphaned children to have one!Aprilia hasa a kit to convert the Belt drive cams to gear train driven. SO MUCH WANT!!!Some day, I will have one....... some day....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LINK Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 RC51 is a Twin.Oops...Knew that, I just threw that in...It seems the ADHD is on a high level today...Thanks for fixing that for me!The RC30 was a V-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenTwelve Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I love my Tuono's charactersitics. I really do want to pick up a Honda Magna as a comfortable cruiser my wife would get on though. Then I can try out the V4 world as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I've had 2 3rd gen Magnas. Definitely a fun motor. Good handling by cruiser standards, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkow97 Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 it has more width becuase its a i4 instead of a twin. which BTW i'll take a i4 over a twin everyday. V-style engines FTL too many parts and not enough power. twins,v6,v8 i just dont get it inline is always bestit's dangerous to make that kind of blanket statement without some kind of disclaimer like, "in general," or "in most cases."Inline 4 cylinder engines are perfectly balanced. So are V12's. I can't remember which additional cylinder configurations are as well; or why they're "perfectly balanced," but that will affect the "feel" of an engine immensely. This is based on a motor trend article i read a long time ago, so my memory of it is spotty, but I'm fairly confident on the I-4 and V12.In any case, there are times when big torque and simple design are desirable. In those applications, an old-tech V-twin is arguably "better" than a complicated I or V 4 with additional valves to fail, a liquid cooling system that can go bad, etc.from what I have seen, both of the bikes pictured are very good, but also quite different in their power delivery.one of my happiest moments was out-driving an FZ1 onto the back straight at Nelson Ledges. At the time I was on a '93 F2 with 87hp. I figure the FZ1 has about 140, and I passed him on the gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-bus Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Go to cycletrader.com and type keyword "leftover ". There were some dirt cheap brand new fz1s in Huron Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBBaron Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 it's dangerous to make that kind of blanket statement without some kind of disclaimer like, "in general," or "in most cases."Inline 4 cylinder engines are perfectly balanced. So are V12's. I can't remember which additional cylinder configurations are as well; or why they're "perfectly balanced," but that will affect the "feel" of an engine immensely. It is inline 6 cylinder engines that are well balanced not 4 cylinder. However because of the smaller more numerous cylinders they have less natural vibrations than most twins. If I-4s are balanced then why do most automotive I-4s have counter balancers?90 degree V-twins like the SV650 (SV1000?) have very good mechanical balance but and uneven firing. They also are very long which can make packaging in a frame troublesome. But as noted the narrow width is helpful.Me, I want one of each. V-2, I-2, thumper, I-4, V-4, I-6, etc. Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accel_is_my_drug Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I think a wankel rotary powered bike would be awesome. I think at one time Norton was playing with this idea.... seems to make sense to me... an engine as smooth as a sewing machine would be sweet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 I think a wankel rotary powered bike would be awesome. I think at one time Norton was playing with this idea.... seems to make sense to me... an engine as smooth as a sewing machine would be sweet..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_RE5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 Occassionally you'll see a RE5 Wankel on eBay. I'd like to ride one. I would not like to own one:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted July 13, 2011 Report Share Posted July 13, 2011 ^--- Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YSR_Racer_99 Posted July 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 Wankel are temperamental, and don't like to sit for more than a couple of days. Had a couple of 2nd-gen RX-7s back in the day. Loved the 12A, not so much the 13B. I absolutely LOVE my little SV650. I love the sound. I love the look (except the radiator). The power is fine for what I do, and it was cheappppp. I'm glad that I didn't pop for the z1000 that I was eyeballing at CCM last fall, with its sticker of only $7999 (brand new). This makes me just as happy. I'd like to have a SV1k, too. I'd do the conversion to it that I did to the 650. I'd like an RC51 because its such eye candy, but it seems to be a Jeep Wrangler kind of deal in that "everyone wants one until they have one". Every RC51 has a non-stock seat and most have relatively low miles. Yeah, I know: "its a sport bike, not a tourer", but still. I've never heard it called a torture rack, like some of the Ducatis were (a la 996 genre), but thats the impression I get. I'd rather ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. Wring its neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimoprime Posted July 14, 2011 Report Share Posted July 14, 2011 you dont need a stable of bikes to understand differences between V and I configurations. in the realm of 4wheels all V configurations have more parts and there for are statistically more prone t fail. However in he 2wheel world they have less parts BUT dont rev and 8/10 out of ten are slower then their inline competition. there are exceptions to every rule and we all can think of a few twin bikes that we wouldnt mind to own. but if you talking about realistically OWNING a bike and keeping it up its going to be the inline option if for nothing else then ease of ownership.and who ever that jackass is who tried to say because my current bike is an inline that i wouldn't have a viable opinion needs to slap themselves and make me a sammich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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