idodishez Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 I may have an opportunity to be hired on as an ADT installer, through TEK Systems (an IT staffing firm). Its piece work type pay, but as a W-2 employee, not as a 1099 sub. They are giving me ranges of what I could expect to make, but I'd much rather hear it from the horses mouth. If anyone is willing to share their experience or input, (and assuming you dont want to share on a public forum) can you text me? 937-303-5555Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 8, 2011 Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Don't do it. You WILL get fucked on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted October 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2011 Don't do it. You WILL get fucked on a regular basis.How so? Please elaborate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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serpentracer Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 yeah I hear that industry is about as bad as the cable/sat installers. who are always hiring. for a reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 yeah I hear that industry is about as bad as the cable/sat installers. who are always hiring. for a reason...This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 ThisWhy are you at the shack and posting on OR? Ain't no drunk bubbies drag racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Why are you at the shack and posting on OR? Ain't no drunk bubbies drag racing?Gump and the Marlboro Man didn't bring any pill head whores home from the enormous Beverly party. Wankers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) The last ADT guy who visited here had nothing good to say about his job. He was under constant pressure to upsell and it took him longer to do the 4 pages of paperwork than it took him to do the work itself. He said he wasn't going to try to upsell me but he was dreading the ration of shit he was gonna get from his boss for not getting the upsell. He was talking about getting another job, not happy where he was.I had called an asked for an alarm panel to be added to my system and placed in the workshop. He said he would have been expected to try to get me to buy fire or carbon monoxide protection.Sounds like a job, not a career. Understand you are a commodity not a person. You will be expendable. Quickly replaced by the next guy who thinks "ADT, cool!" Edited October 9, 2011 by Scruit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 The last ADT guy who visited here had nothing good to say about his job. He was under constant pressure to upsell and it took him longer to do the 4 pages of paperwork than it took him to do the work itself. He said he wasn't going to try to upsell me but he was dreading the ration of shit he was gonna get from his boss for not getting the upsell. He was talking about getting another job, not happy where he was.I had called an asked for an alarm panel to be added to my system and placed in the workshop. He said he would have been expected to try to get me to buy fire or carbon monoxide protection.Sounds like a job, not a career. Understand you are a commodity not a person. You will be expendable. Quickly replaced by the next guy who thinks "ADT, cool!"Finally. Some genuine advice/input. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I may have an opportunity to be hired on as an ADT installer, through TEK Systems (an IT staffing firm). Its piece work type pay, but as a W-2 employee, not as a 1099 sub. They are giving me ranges of what I could expect to make, but I'd much rather hear it from the horses mouth. If anyone is willing to share their experience or input, (and assuming you dont want to share on a public forum) can you text me? 937-303-5555ThanksI was a sub contractor for ADT and just got hired in at the Toledo office. Sending a text now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Finally. Some genuine advice/input. ThanksDude, as you can see I've had a busy weekend, but as one of the resident "security guys" I stopped in to give you solid advice. Don't do it. If you have genuine low voltage skills then apply at every local security/fire biz in your area and exhaust all avenues of employment before going this route.If this job was legit, they would hire you hourly, offer a benefits package and set you up in a service vehicle. Ask about their turnover rate. Im betting its sky high.And like scruit said, you the will be expected to upsell people products they don't need and will leave each job realizing after all is said and done you are making minimum wage and working for unscrupulous people. So as I said, don't do it. Its just not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted October 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Dude, as you can see I've had a busy weekend, but as one of the resident "security guys" I stopped in to give you solid advice. Don't do it. If you have genuine low voltage skills then apply at every local security/fire biz in your area and exhaust all avenues of employment before going this route.If this job was legit, they would hire you hourly, offer a benefits package and set you up in a service vehicle. Ask about their turnover rate. Im betting its sky high.And like scruit said, you the will be expected to upsell people products they don't need and will leave each job realizing after all is said and done you are making minimum wage and working for unscrupulous people. So as I said, don't do it. Its just not worth it.Didnt mean to offend anyone. My point was that prior to that post all I saw was "you'll get fooked", "lube job" and other non specific reasons as to why they seem to leave such a bad taste in people's mouth. Now I have some actual specifics as to why. Much appreciated. I'll PM u w my current salary, as it's no where near minimum wage, and they are claiming more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Didnt mean to offend anyone. My point was that prior to that post all I saw was "you'll get fooked", "lube job" and other non specific reasons as to why they seem to leave such a bad taste in people's mouth. Now I have some actual specifics as to why. Much appreciated. I'll PM u w my current salary, as it's no where near minimum wage, and they are claiming moreThey couldn't reel you in if it didn't appear lucrative. Everyone I know that subbed for them felt like an unsupported whore in short order.Its a rough business to sub in. Edited October 9, 2011 by max power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likwid Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Everyone CLAIMS that you'll make "more than you can imagine!", if their offer is more than your salary than they'll pay with with a salary, not per job pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gino Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) I made good money. But I worked a LOT. I like to work, and knowing how much I get for what I do made me want to work even harder. But I am not the type of person that complains that they HAVE to work. What's there to complain about? You know how much you can make and by working faster you make more! 80% of what I did as a Sub I did running. I found ways to improve the process that was taught to me. Calling in radios on the way to the customer and building kits ahead of time, starting pulse activation while building the kits and programming instead of after installation, etc. If you are motivated by money and are not afraid of literary running up and down stairs, working without lunches and can stay on task all day long then this is the job for you. If you want to stand around talking to your buddies, checking your facebook and playing on your droid then this job is not for you. Stay hourly, stay in the union, complain about your wages, complain about having your job, LOL. For me, being a sub for ADT was very rewarding. All the sales staff and office staff LOVED me because they knew if they had something pressing Gino could get it done. I worked a lot and made a lot of money. Being a Sub is not a chilling position. It does wear you out. But the money! .... I must add that I am a very gifted slacker. I could have been so much more, blah blah blah, but I simply enjoy working with my hands. I program a panel in 30 seconds because I remember all the fields without having to look at the keypad, but then again that shouldn't be difficult for anyone with a half of brain. And no one promised me anything. I was told that I COULD make a lot of money. You don't expect to make a lot of money for doing nothing, do you? The amount of money is directly related to the amount of work you do, and that is what was most appealing to me. You do two jobs in a day and make 200 bucks - your boss is happy and you are doing OK. You do four jobs in a day and make 400 bucks - your boss is happy and you are well. Working hourly seems to never satisfy your management because it is never enough...My hard work paid off in the end and I was asked if I was interested in getting hired in at the office as an ADT employee, making more than techs that have been there for 15 yrs. Take it for what it's worth:If you are willing to work hard to make a lot of money one week, and the next, and the next and so on you will become THE GUY. Doing twice the work got me twice as much money. Where most fail is they allow themselves to slow down after working hard for one week. Then the people cannot depend on you to get things done. Salary and hourly positions offer little reward for me because working half as hard got me the same reward as working hard. One of the question I asked before taking the position at the corporate was "am I going to be allowed to work over time?" With a mutual understanding that my production numbers would not plummet - obviously I would not be allowed to work over time if I simply milked the clock.Basically, if you want to make the money "they" promise, or even more, you have to work hard every day, whenever work is available. If you do that, then you will be making lots of money. I am one example of this. Edited October 9, 2011 by Gino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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