Gump Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Is this a legit thing, old, and/ or just money grubbing malarchy...?Dear fellow Patriot,Nearly 1 million American firearms.Banned by a stroke of Barack Obama’s pen.In a move unprecedented in American history, the Obama Administration quietly banned the re-importation of nearly 600,000 American made M1 Carbine rifles.And I've just discovered Obama may be blocking as many 300,000 1911 Colts too!That's nearly one million pieces of American history denied to the American people.The M1 rifle, developed in the late 1930’s, carried the United States through World War II seeing action in every major battle.General Patton at the time called the M1 “the greatest battle implement ever devised.”The rifle is largely credited with giving American soldiers the advantage and securing victory for the allies.During the Korean War, nearly one million of these rifles were brought to South Korea and left with the South Korean government afterward.Now, South Korea wants to give American gun collectors the chance to get their hands on this unique piece of history.A piece of American history that Barack Obama would like to see go down the memory hole.That’s why I want as many Americans as possible to put themselves on record opposing this gun ban by signing the Official Firearms Freedom Survey the National Association for Gun Rights has prepared for you.Will you please join me?After World War II, the United States government sent millions of these rifles overseas to our allies and friends.That includes 950,000 M1 Garands, 1.2 million M1 Carbines, and 300,000 1911 Pistols.Over the past 50 years, many of the countries we lent them to returned them to America to be bought and sold by firearms collectors.This is nothing new.Make no mistake; these firearms were made in America, by Americans, for Americans, to defend freedom on foreign shores.As a part of our history, they are greatly sought after by American shooters and collectors.But according to Hillary Clinton’s State Department there is a danger they might “fall into the wrong hands.”That they might, possibly, one day be used in a crime.No mention of the hundreds of thousands of gun owners deprived of the opportunity to own an integral part of American history.The State Department’s outrageous claims are nothing more than a thinly veiled ploy to distract from the real issue:President Obama’s deep seated hatred for gun rights.While his gun-grabbing base is giddy with praise at this back-door gun ban, law-abiding citizens across the United States are crying foul.Let me be clear: at no time in U.S. history has the ownership of this of these firearms -- or any part of these firearms -- been illegal, restricted or banned.Americans have collected World War II M1 rifles for decades.Now they are sold through the Civilian Marksmanship Program.You can even purchase a newly manufactured model from Springfield Armory that was made just a month or two ago.And the M1’s caliber or capacity is no more dangerous than the millions of modern firearms owned by Americans across the country today.As you can see, there is absolutely no justification for this unconstitutional gun ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 This is just the latest in a series of anti-gun schemes from the Obama Administration:*** A new so-called “Assaults Weapon Ban" -- targeting ALL semi-automatic rifles and shotguns -- which, unlike the Clinton ban, would NEVER expire;*** An outright BAN on “high capacity” magazines -- banning the sale and manufacture of magazines holding more than just a handful of rounds;*** A National Concealed Carry “Standard” -- designed to make it even more difficult for law-abiding citizens to carry a gun to protect themselves and their families from assault;*** Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s “Catch-All Gun Control Scheme” -- to create a national “cannot buy registry,” allowing citizens to be stripped of their Second Amendment rights on a Justice Department whim, effectively banning all private gun sales.That’s why it is essential that Americans like you and I take a stand against the M1 Carbine and 1911 gun ban!It has been common practice since the end of World War II to re-import these American made rifles from the foreign allies they were lent to during the war.But the Obama Administration departs radically from the American tradition.In fact, on top of banning American citizens from owning these historic firearms, Obama’s State Department is arranging for the destruction of nearly one million of them -- ironically, at a time of ballooning federal deficits.It’s an outrage!These firearms -- truly pieces of American history -- rightly belong in the hands of U.S. citizens.That’s why I was glad to hear that the National Association for Gun Rights is helping fight this power grab in the U.S. Senate.Do you believe the U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Second Amendment are the supreme law of the land?Do you believe that President Obama banning the re-importation of these historic firearms is an unprecedented and unconstitutional power grab?Do you support Congress forcing President Obama to reverse his ban and save these American made firearms from destruction?If you said “Yes” to these questions, please sign the Firearms Freedom Survey the National Association for Gun Rights has prepared for you.Your survey will put you squarely on the record AGAINST Barack Obama’s Gun Ban.And along with your signed survey, I hope you’ll send a generous contribution of $250, $100, $50 or even just $35 to help finance this battle.With your generous contribution, the National Association for Gun Rights will continue contacting Second Amendment supporters to turn up the heat on targeted U.S. Senators.Not only that, but they’re preparing a massive program to launch the designed to force President Obama to reverse this ban.Direct mail. Phones. E-mail. Blogs. Guest editorials. Press conferences. Hard-hitting internet, newspaper, radio and even TV ads if funding permits. The whole nine yards.Of course, a program of this scale is only possible if the National Association for Gun Rights can raise the money.But that’s not easy.So please put yourself on record AGAINST Barack Obama’s Rifle Ban by signing NAGR’s Firearms Freedom Survey.But along with your survey, please agree to make a generous contribution of $250, $100, $50 or even just $35.And every dollar counts in this fight so even if you can only chip in $10 or $20, your help will still make a difference.Thank you in advance for your time and money devoted to defending our Second Amendment rights.For Freedom,Rand PaulUnited States SenatorP.S. In a move unprecedented in American history, Barack Obama secretly banned the re-importation of nearly a million American made M1 Carbine rifles and 1911 pistols.The M1 rifle, developed in the 1930’s, carried the U.S. through World War II seeing action in every major battle.So please put yourself on record AGAINST the Barack Obama’s Rifle Gun by signing NAGR’s Firearms Freedom Survey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howabusa Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I think I need to go buy more guns, mags & ammo! Soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnone Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Gun sales are at an all time high.Obama did sign the bill to allow firearms in national parks.Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 .......Doorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8mmDale Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I think I need to go buy more guns, mags & ammo! Soon!I would love to help you with that! Just got a bunch of new ones in!Someone told me in all likelihood the guns that are sitting over there are probably junk by now. Most have been sitting around in piles, probably not maintained in decades. Granted they are still sweet guns, Im hoping this is true so I don't think I'm missing out on a potential WWII Colt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I can't believe the OR Pinko-Commie brigade hasn't been in here yet to tell us this is untrue cuz Obama is such a great guy, etc., etc. I want an M-1, they can't be much worse than the M-91's I've been seeing in the gun stores lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Dire and hysterical predictions of anti-gun laws coming down the pike attached to a request for hundreds of dollars in donations?No, no bias there at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 That's why I asked if anyone new if it was fake or not. I removed a few solicitations to boot, so it would fit. And, I've never heard of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 The administration did block the reimportation of the M1's. Surely you understand that they are simply concerned for our safety. Those assault rifles could fall into the wrong hands. You just have to know that every thug and gang member would want one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idodishez Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I can't believe the OR Pinko-Commie brigade hasn't been in here yet to tell us this is untrue cuz Obama is such a great guy, etc., etc. .THISDoorfront Parking like a BOSSNoBama 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 so he does't want to transport a million old unsafe guns back to this country?guess you'll have to buy your guns new and support your local gun shops... what a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Didn't we pay for them a while ago? It's free money. I'd take them, if not it's wasted money. They would fall under curios and relics, I believe. For a few bucks and a license you could have them mailed to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I dont know that M1's fall under curio and relics. We would be supporting local business since they would probably be sold through them or transfered through one. I've heard mixed reports on their condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 so he does't want to transport a million old unsafe guns back to this country?guess you'll have to buy your guns new and support your local gun shops... what a shame. you'll never get it. I would much rather have a WWII M-1 than a new plastic rifle. They don't build them like that anymore and those guns are a big part of our history. If they bring them back, even in sad condition, they will be snatched up quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4DAIVI PAI2K5 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I would buy one of each, if they are cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 you'll never get it. I would much rather have a WWII M-1 than a new plastic rifle. They don't build them like that anymore and those guns are a big part of our history. If they bring them back, even in sad condition, they will be snatched up quick.So force gun manufacturers to build better guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 So force gun manufacturers to build better gunsYeeeaaaah, ill get right on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 So force gun manufacturers to build better gunslulz just like bailouts force GM to make better cars? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 lulz just like bailouts force GM to make better cars?Rep if PB rule doesn't stop me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 I dont know that M1's fall under curio and relics. We would be supporting local business since they would probably be sold through them or transfered through one. I've heard mixed reports on their condition.Not sure either but I think it just needs to be 50 years old or older.To be recognized as C&R items, 478.11 specifies that firearms must fall within one of the following categories:Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas of such firearms;Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; andAny other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 nobody is bailing out gun manufacturers, but if you keep buying their shit guns, then they have no incentive to build better ones.it's the harley davidson syndrome all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawi kid Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 so he does't want to transport a million old unsafe guns back to this country?guess you'll have to buy your guns new and support your local gun shops... what a shame.Not unsafe. They would just need a good once over. They are a piece of history, our history. The only downside to importing more is that if you flood the market with more the collectors that have them here will see their guns devalued a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 nobody is bailing out gun manufacturers, but if you keep buying their shit guns, then they have no incentive to build better ones.GM got the bailout IMO because they were overproducing shitty cars that people stopped buying so they were spending a shit ton of money and not making any. The people "spoke" saying they wanted better quality cars by not buying theirs anymore and that led to getting the bailouts and they still make shit carsTheir trucks and SUV's save them however I've had the last 3 generations of Silverado and each one is getting lower and lower quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted May 17, 2012 Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 So what of the remaining claims?- National concealed carry rules that would be effectively too tough for anyone to comply with- New assault weapon and shotgun ban- Hi-capacity magazine ban- Effective Ban on private salesThese claims are apparently unsubstantiated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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