TSB67 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 “Maybe we ought to save some of the costs when police or emergency responders go to the scene of a crash and the person is not wearing a helmet. Perhaps they ought to be left there like roadkill.”– Michael Dabbs, president of the Brain Injury Association of MichiganDon't really care about this one way or another, just thought the quote was entertaining. AMA wants you to hear all about it.http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=48621 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Eh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pt377 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DezUNyTsG4RI&v=ezUNyTsG4RI&gl=US Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 For a crowd that considers themselves badass and rebellious, the helmetless squid and Harley rider contingents sure do get offended easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 I heavily disagree with the sentiments of the article.If we leave all the squids for dead on the sides of the road, we'll have no shoulders left for emergency SUV evasion or for skipping traffic jams.Squids already make us look bad. Let's not let them ruin our roadways as well.Clean 'em up and send the bills to Joe Rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harb67 Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Clean 'em up and send the bills to Joe Rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Just push them off the road and dump a bag of lime on them like they do with the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IN_NO_OH Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 About 1/2 of fatal motorcycle accidents are the result of automobile drivers violating the motorcyclist's right of way. These collisions are the fault of car drivers, in other words. Rather than comment on the dangerous behavior that causes about half of motorcycling deaths, though, the "brain injury" spokesperson reserves his vitriol for the victims of the wrongful harms. The victims did not do as much as they could have to mitigate the injuries others wrongfully caused to them. Ah, ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wadepenn Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 He's just a hater... That guy was a nerd that some sportbike ridin' magic Mike stole his girlfriend in high school and this is his middle aged power play against the cool guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_c_F Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Yeah, I don't know why I added that. Sounded cool.Disclosure - I ride with Joe Rocket gloves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Blame the cars all you want if you don't wear gear your putting yourself at risk period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 blame the cars all you want; if you ride a motorcycle you're putting yourself at risk, period.fify! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 True, but without atleast a lid you are at greater risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruit Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Don't forget that while arguing that half of all motorcycle accidents are caused by cars, you are also pointing out that half are caused by the bike. Pretty useless statistic really.Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 YOU'RE a useless statistic. *nonsensical gradeschool bully insult voice* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarvismb Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 your mom's a useless statistic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapesmuggler27 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Blame the cars all you want if you don't wear gear your putting yourself at risk period.100% agree!!! I love hearing the excuse "I don't wear one because its not the law" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingset Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 For a crowd that considers themselves badass and rebellious, the helmetless squid and Harley rider contingents sure do get offended easily.The skin thins with too much exposure to the elements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 True, but without atleast a lid you are at greater risk.You're at greater risk riding at night as well, do you ever venture out after the sun goes down?If you want to be safe, buy a volvo...Adults should be allowed to make their own (stupid) decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 100% agree!!! I love hearing the excuse "I don't wear one because its not the law" I like when the harley/squid type riders say they dont wear one cause they cant see or hear as well with one on and it makes them feel less safe.LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedytriple Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I disagree mags i think you are at a greater risk riding during the morning and evening commute then you are at night. I don't even ride my bike to work anymore on day shift due to the asshats on the freeway in downtown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 I disagree mags i think you are at a greater risk riding during the morning and evening commute then you are at night. I don't even ride my bike to work anymore on day shift due to the asshats on the freeway in downtown.not round here, here the biggest threat to your safety is animals venturing into the roadway...but you are probably right where you live...wasn't my point... I don't care if people wear helmets... or seatbelts... or go boating/jet skiing/surfing without life preservers. Life is full of risks, you should be free to take the risks you want to take, so long as you understand them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattm Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Let's add a little vitriol...People who don't wear helmets are socialist!!!With the new trend of charging people for the emergency response crews, let us evaluate the reality of a helmet-less rider in a crash...1. The helmet less rider costs us all more money through insurance premiums2. The helmet-less rider costs us all time and money as the Highway Patrol has to shut down the highway to investigate the almost certainly fatal accident3. The helmet-less rider costs us all more money as the fire department and the highway patrol and the sheriff wants to investigate the brain splatter on the road.4. The helmet-less passenger who only adds to the cost of the helmet-less rider...I am tired of the socialist non helmet wearer who expects me to pay for his/her decision. It is time these people took personal responsibility for their decisions. They should be required to tell their insurance company that they rider without a helmet and they should pay more as their actions cost us more. Freedom isn't free and right now riding without a helmet passes costs on to all of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Is there a helmet law? If not, who gives a shit? I guess if people exercise their freedoms, they are squids. I can promise you that some of the riders you see not wearing helmets are not squids and can provide a BUNCH of examples of riders with even full gear that ARE squids.How we all label each other and segregate groups like the HD guys apparently are the only ones that do not wear helmets...Point is simple and stated well by Mags... I don't give two shits about a citizen that makes their own (right, wrong, smart or stupid) decision. If there is a law and they are not wearing one? Then maybe jump their shit. When a person tries and justifies not wearing a helmet and the reasons are really ignorant? Jump their shit.Otherwise, who cares? We have more than enough full gear wearing riders that give us a bad name... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Let's add a little vitriol...People who don't wear helmets are socialist!!!With the new trend of charging people for the emergency response crews, let us evaluate the reality of a helmet-less rider in a crash...1. The helmet less rider costs us all more money through insurance premiums - They do? How about the fact there are some that buy a bike that is well beyond their abilities and within a short series of miles are killed or crash due to that idea? Why not quit acting like it is fine to allow a new rider to buy a 1000 sportbike? Why not propose a license structure like Europe?2. The helmet-less rider costs us all time and money as the Highway Patrol has to shut down the highway to investigate the almost certainly fatal accident - They are the only reasons for this? How about the car that pulls in front of a kid on a bike? How about a rider doing a wheelie on the freeway and slams into the back of a car? How about a rider that blows a turn due to drinking and piles his shit into oncoming traffic? How about... 3. The helmet-less rider costs us all more money as the fire department and the highway patrol and the sheriff wants to investigate the brain splatter on the road. - They never have to investigate the other crashes? So, if they wear a helmet and a tank top and shorts, they are good to go? Or, if they wear full gear, they most certainly don't have ANYTHING to clean up nor investigate, right? "Oh, they are in full gear. Nothing to check out."4. The helmet-less passenger who only adds to the cost of the helmet-less rider... - Yeah, because there never is a killed passenger on a bike that is in full gear like the rider. Nobody ever pulls out in front of bikes with riders in full gear...I am tired of the socialist non helmet wearer who expects me to pay for his/her decision. It is time these people took personal responsibility for their decisions. They should be required to tell their insurance company that they rider without a helmet and they should pay more as their actions cost us more. Freedom isn't free and right now riding without a helmet passes costs on to all of us.Sorry to bust your balls, but you are as bad as the guy that tells me the reasons he doesn't wear a helmet is because the government ain't gonna keep him down.Do you tell the insurance company that you do triple digit speeds sometimes? Do you tell them that you don't always wear full leather on the street? Do you tell them that you sometimes might have a few drinks and then take off on your bike? Do you tell them that you sometimes rip through traffic because you are running late?Not saying you do a single one of these, but there are a ton of bikers that do. Sportbike, cruiser, sport touring, etc. All these groups of riders do things that would raise their rates if an accident occurred because of them. Again, if no helmet law, you can say that it is ignorant to not wear gear. You can also do the community a favor and educate the reasons to wear gear. I used to go to elementary and middle schools and promote bicycle helmet safety and use the racebikes and our gear as examples of what we wear and why and promote the use of helmets by kids and when they ride their bikes. We'd give helmets away from Bell and stuff like stickers, posters, etc. The idea was to get them started on safety and promote that they use this mentality when they grow up.Do something constructive vs. labeling and acting like they screw your life up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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