Hoblick Posted August 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Waiting on brian and pauly to confirm a time? What say you brian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojocho Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'd be game for this. I don't have the time or extra hands to set my sag on my new bike so I'd be willing to pay for that service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 i meant my track/race bike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Waiting on brian and pauly to confirm a time? What say you brian?Well, this Sunday is out for me due to Mid-O. Next weekend is out due to work and hopefully MS race. I'd say that the second weekend in Sept is looking good. I'd have to look at the MS schedule and see what the dates are in Sept, but really, Sept looks good. I'd like to try and get it done before the last Mid-O events in Sept in case someone wanted to try their settings and I can assist in adjusting if need be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm no expert' date=' but I think every two years would be sufficient for a street bike.[/quote']I'd tend to agree with this idea. It is all in how often you use the bike and to what level it is used. Tons of twisties and trips to the Dragon, etc? I'd go with sooner than that. Haul a lot on longer trips and higher miles? Probably sooner also...As for track/race? We used to refresh a couple of times a season to stay as fresh as possible. minimum, once a year. Best idea is obviously at the start of each season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSB67 Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 My opinion here, but if you are going to offer a suspension seminar, it should be by a) credible people within the suspension industry, b) experienced racers with a ton of knowledge, c) race tuners, etc. d) Otherwise, (I mean no disrespect) standard techs are just going to be giving either regurgitated info or simply such a neutral series of specs to cover a wide range of people.What I am getting at is that I would be willing to do a free seminar for example on how to set your sag, what compression and rebound can do for a rider - especially track - what to look for, what to think about, etc.In any case, I am willing to share my worthless knowledge...Now I'm confused - with you do we get b or d? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelstoker Posted August 21, 2012 Report Share Posted August 21, 2012 Thinking about holding a suspension setting session.One day event, base line suspension setup.Ill adjust your sag to either a race or street set up.I can do baseline comp/damp settings as well.Im trying to come up with a fair price.Who would be interested?Yes$40 per bike, $60 for two???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 They are pre-load adjustable which can be adjusted for sag (What you adjust for sag primarily - you CAN adjust to a degree with COMP, but mostly, pre-load.)The sag numbers should be around a range of 30-35mm. That's topped out and then where the measurement is with rider in gear. This is a starting point only and then adjusted per rider's ability and comfort/style.ANY bike is around that series of numbers generally. Some are less, some are more and street will depend on what you are doing with the bike. But, in general, look for 32-ish is where I typically tell guys to start and work from there.You really want balance front and rear. Smaller sag #s in rear vs. front are sometimes typical (my bike is this way) for guys that are racing and certain bikes. I run a 35mm front and 30mm rear...Currently im set at 27 front 27 rear.. Bike feels very planted, comp and rebound settings id have to look at my notes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 I'm with Brian, I shoot for 35 front and 25 rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Currently im set at 27 front 27 rear.. Bike feels very planted, comp and rebound settings id have to look at my notesKinda stiff, man. To each their own for sure, but on the GSXRs, I was at 32-35 front and rear. Did OK with that setting on sag, but did mess with the comp/reb once in a while. More on chassis geo than anything on the GSXRs, but again, no two riders will be the same, but that is on the stiff side for someone VERY hard on brakes for example... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Doesnt seem that stiff to me, granted the suspension has never been refreshed.Forks are flush with top tree. Edited August 22, 2012 by Hoblick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted August 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Back on topic.. The next 3 weekends im pretty much unavailable do to work or trackday.Ill havd to look at my schedule to see beyond that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 Doesnt seem that stiff to me, granted the suspension has never been refreshed.Forks are flush with top tree.When you look at the zip tye or o-ring on your forks, are they around 1/4" or less from bottoming out?Also, are you running extenders? Those bikes need fork extenders to get the right amount of needed trail... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 How much sag is too much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkason Posted August 22, 2012 Report Share Posted August 22, 2012 How much sag is too much?For a fee a local surgeon can respring those for the proper sag and swap some silicone in those to get them ready to hit the track again. Until then it appears unsafe to ride in a high performance application but it may be safe for street walking only. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 So, is this thing in the dust and shelved? I see there is a sag session at the dyno event so, I suspect that this topic here is moot and done for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 pretty much, no one was acting on setting anything up. So i took charge of my own business and got things rolling, like i was going to from the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I thought we were waiting on you to set a date' date=' Ryan. It's your show. I'm just gonna spin wrenches and look at man boobs. [/quote']ftfy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoblick Posted September 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 I thought we were waiting on you to set a date' date=' Ryan. It's your show. I'm just gonna spin wrenches and look at boobs. [/quote']i was letting brian take the reigns to set it up. no advancement from him, no communication, so i opted out. Setting things up myself, in a venue that people are familiar with, seemed like the way to go.i have a limited schedule, and trying to get things together with you and brian was dragging out. i wasnt gonna set something up if brian wanted to run the show. He is the one that brought up a free suspension session and learning seminar, so i figured he could take care of getting things lined up, he didnt.Pauly, if you wanna come down and spin wrenches at the event i have set up, we can work something out. Just shoot me a PM and we can get things ironed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moto-Brian Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 (edited) .... Edited September 5, 2012 by Desmo-Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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