jbot Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 i guessI don't care what you do with your gun in your own house.is it your understanding that the second law doesn't care "what you do with your gun in your own house"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 is it your understanding that the second law doesn't care "what you do with your gun in your own house"?Well, I guess that depends if you have children at your house.(which I was assuming you didn't)This isn't the only gun control legislation Patmon has pending. In June, the BFA "F"-rated legislator introduced legislation that would "prohibit any person from storing or leaving a firearm in the person's residence unless the firearm is secured in safe storage or rendered inoperable by a tamper-resistant lock or other safety device if the person knows or reasonably should know that a minor is able to gain access to the firearm and to provide criminal penalties if a minor gains unauthorized access to a firearm not so stored or rendered inoperable."I guess the bold part is the clincher for me... If a minor gains access to your gun because of your lack of due diligence, you should be held accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm positive that with the laws that are already in place if a minor was to comes into possession of a weapon that was "carelessly left laying about", that gun owner would be in a heap of shit.Nothing like some law icing flowers on the law icing on the law cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm positive that with the laws that are already in place if a minor was to comes into possession of a weapon that was "carelessly left laying about", that gun owner would be in a heap of shit.Nothing like some law icing flowers on the law icing on the law cake. Define "carelessly left laying about"... does the law already define that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Wait, I'm not suppose to let my 6 year old play with my gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Wait, I'm not suppose to let my 6 year old play with my gun?you're not supposed to leave your gun somewhere that your 6 yr old can, of her own volition, gain access to it with or without your knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Still not seeing where this needs to be a law. If someone is going to leave a gun out where a kid can get it, this law wouldn't stop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Still not seeing where this needs to be a law. If someone is going to leave a gun out where a kid can get it, this law wouldn't stop them.nope, apparently not, but it WOULD make them lawfully accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 This isn't the only gun control legislation Patmon has pending. In June, the BFA "F"-rated legislator introduced legislation that would "prohibit any person from storing or leaving a firearm in the person's residence unless the firearm is secured in safe storage or rendered inoperable by a tamper-resistant lock or other safety device if the person knows or reasonably should know that a minor is able to gain access to the firearm and to provide criminal penalties if a minor gains unauthorized access to a firearm not so stored or rendered inoperable.".I am in favor of any legislation that requires that guns be locked up and kept unavailable to defend one's property. Home invasions are a big part of my income. I am sick of worrying about some home owner preventing me from from taking what I need. Some of my fellow meth heads are total pussies and won't even rob houses because they're worried about getting shot in the ass. We need way more effin laws! They should make meth illegal....that way I wouldn't be a meth head in the first place.#not sarcasm (just incase sarcasm has already been outlawed) #reallywassarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Well, I guess that depends if you have children at your house.(which I was assuming you didn't)i want to propose a law where people can pass gun laws. but it depends if they have guns at their house (which i was assuming they didn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 nope, apparently not, but it WOULD make them lawfully accountable.How are they not already accountable if something happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 How are they not already accountable if something happens?Oh no! I think we're thinking too much alike! Someone should propose a law that outlaws people having similar thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swingset Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Oh, how quaint, Magz having mental diarrhea over guns again. Oh, but this time it's for the children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I am in favor of any legislation that requires that guns be locked up and kept unavailable to defend one's property. Home invasions are a big part of my income. I am sick of worrying about some home owner preventing me from from taking what I need. Some of my fellow meth heads are total pussies and won't even rob houses because they're worried about getting shot in the ass. We need way more effin laws! They should make meth illegal....that way I wouldn't be a meth head in the first place.#not sarcasm (just incase sarcasm has already been outlawed) #reallywassarcasmHaha... I was thinking the same thing. Um, excuse me Mr. Robber, please wait to try to steal my belongings, beat me, and harm my family... I have to put my combo in the safe... Shit, Hun... What was the code again?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reimbrandt Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 There are to many fkn laws on guns as it is now...... How about they just inforce the ones that are already there. If you have a minor in your house and they injure or worse themselves you are held acountable by law. Jesus fknchrist...... I grew up in a house that had more tahn one rifle accessable.... Knew where the ammo was. Dad had a loaded 38 in easy reach on his milk truck. My best friends dad was a judge.... Anywhere ya went in his house you were within 5 feet of a loaded 38 or 45. There were 7 kids in our house and 2 in his including the amount of friends we had over. Nobody ever got injured or killed....... Why.... Not cause they were lockd up and safe..... Because we knew our fathers would hnad us our asses if we got caught with em. But that doesnt totally pertain to afore mentioned friend because he had 6 firearms in his closet......... The other major part.... We were taught guns and how to respect them. Theres a lot to be said for teachn kids how to repect things rather than hide em like they dont exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I was just emailed this link. I thought everyone here should be aware of it.http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/8558Ted Celeste is Dick Celeste's more retarded brother. He has introduced this 'opt in' gun sign idea as an amendment to every gun law passed since I can remember...he tried to add it to the guns in bars bill and all of those.It gets creamed everytime it gets voted on. Patton is the rep from the bad part of Cleveland. He is a failure, he has done nothing for his district and wants to blame everything on the guns.This is going nowhere, nothing to even worry about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDy Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Do you all believe everything you read on the Internet? Last legislation I saw on the interwebz said that citizens can only carry rocks no larger than the size of a coconut that is capable of being carried by a European sparrow beating its wings at 40 BPM.-VanDy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disclaimer Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ted Celeste is Dick Celeste's more retarded brother. He has introduced this 'opt in' gun sign idea as an amendment to every gun law passed since I can remember...he tried to add it to the guns in bars bill and all of those.It gets creamed everytime it gets voted on. Patton is the rep from the bad part of Cleveland. He is a failure, he has done nothing for his district and wants to blame everything on the guns.This is going nowhere, nothing to even worry about.Who is Patton? The guy's name is Patmon.And per this map: http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2011/12/ohio_house_and_ohio_senate_dis.htmlDistrict 10 isn't the "bad part" of Cleveland ... it IS Cleveland (Rock Hall, Burke Lakefront, Westside market, Browns Stadium). So, unless you were crackin' wise on Cleveland itself being ALL bad, he's not from the bad part of Cleveland.And as far as being a "failure" -- it's his first term, so what exactly are you judging him being a failure on, aside from him introducing HB595 as mentioned in this thread? Please educate me, unless you're just hopping on the bandwagon to pile on without doing your homework? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottb Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 you come over to my house, hang out, have a good time... take your gun out of your holster or your holster off your belt (whatever the case may be) then you have a good time pass out drunk or whatever, go home without your gun. Next morning my niece comes over picks it up, and bam... instant tragedy.I was going to fix this above quote and replace "gun" with "elbow" but did not want to be a D-bag. I like Magz, but don't always agree.I am not sure having a law that tells people you must lock up your firearms around kids will do anything. The people with common sense either have them locked up already or have taught the kids that are old enough to understand ( that age is determined by the parent, based on the childs maturity) to respect and proper handling of a firearm.I do not have children in my house. If friends / family with children are stopping over for a holiday gathering, anything that may or not be "laying around" would be secure prior to arrival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod38um Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Ted Celeste is Dick Celeste's more retarded brother. He has introduced this 'opt in' gun sign idea as an amendment to every gun law passed since I can remember...he tried to add it to the guns in bars bill and all of those.It gets creamed everytime it gets voted on. Patton is the rep from the bad part of Cleveland. He is a failure, he has done nothing for his district and wants to blame everything on the guns.This is going nowhere, nothing to even worry about.Probably true.......however, any idiot that seriously proposes anti constitutional legislation like this should be banned from public office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 not going anywhere.come on guys. we got concealed carry under an anti-gun governor. well kasich is anti gun too, but to afraid of what the people of ohio would do if he got rid of concealed carry or put in ANYTHING that was restrictive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Kasich isn't really anti gun, just a douche trying to play both sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Kasich, just a douchesimple, requires no context Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad324 Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 my support of him went by the wayside when he basically did a 180 on our industry. Other than gas and oil, business and gun policies I know jack shit about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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