This thread is a perfect example of why we are in the mess we are in. Everyone wants to pin a bad guy and take care of that, but no one is paying attention to the details. It's Bush's fault for invading Iraq, its Obama's fault for not finishing Afghanistan. It's the Radical Muslims. Stop picking on the Muslims, they are mostly cool. You folks are thinking in terms of countries and religions. It is more complicated than that, and yet more simple. First, Western Muslims are for the most part cool. Even this most recent asshat went to Jordan...bet you hate filled donuts he was radicalized over there. And for the most part, Mid-Eastern Muslims are asshats hell bent on killing you. Even the Muslims in Saudi Arabia, and Turkey want to rip off your head and shit down your throat. The only reason they are not doing that is because we are propping them up and keeping the Iran's and Iraq's from killing them. Important point. Mid East Muslims hate everyone (like I do) that are not part of their TRIBE. Did you get that, there are tribes, and this is a HUGE part of it...more important than the Muslim angle. These asshat tribes have been killing each other since before your fake Christ walked on water. Iran, Iraq, Afgan and Lebanon are Shia...they are currently hell bent on killing you. Saudi, Turkey and so on are Sunni, and while they want to kill you they are willing to wait as long as we are killing Shia and propping up their governments with weapons and cash and food. This is FAR more about tribal dominance than religion and until we recognize that we are doomed to continue down the path. The enemy of your enemy is your friend. For now. As for collateral damage, they don't give a shit. They do not value life, they value death...if it includes Martyrdom. So when you kill their kids they celebrate that child's Martyrdom...and it gives validation to their lives...a life that is mostly defined by killing and hating us. Understand that, Mid-East asshats do not value life. Until you accept that you won't be able to address the problem. The answer is simple, pick a Shia country and fucking nuke it. Continue nuking Shia countries until there are no more, or they get the hint. At that point we will probably need to nuke a few Sunni's. Personally, I don't mind at all. When was the last time Israel whined about the Pali's firing rockets at them? It has been awhile, because not long ago the Israeli army invaded Paliland and killed them indiscriminately so the Paliasshats stopped rockets for awhile. Mid east Muslims can take a hint, you just have to hit them over the head with it. Very hard. Much like the people on OR.