I can meet you guys some where west of Cleveland ?? and then 83 straight down works as well....where are you from. I will have to come from South Euclid, east side and that's not a problem.....or we can meet some common southern area ? For me I77 would be shortest but freeway/cops...meh.. You guys throw some input about meeting (both of you are from west) and your preferred route and I will join in a suitable place.....how about that..