Uncle Punk

Let’s keep the facts straight, only public hospital employees will be affected. The vast majority of medical professionals will not be affected.

I have a 6 x 12 R&R trailer without the etrack that I bought new for over 5K in 2008. This is an excellent price and a very nice trailer. I have towed it over 15K miles and paying the extra for an aluminum trailer has saved me more in gas than the initial upfront cost of the trailer. A bonus is you still have a nice trailer that isn't all rusted up in a few years. If I didn't already have the one I do now I would be all over this one.

I'm not sold on the idea of using thicker soles to resolve a height issue unless you are riding a scooter. I'm not saying it can't be effective but there are some potential drawbacks. I have a pair of riding boots that I quit wearing because they were too thick and I had to rotate, pivot my foot too much to make a gear change. For some it may not matter but on a spirited back road ride with a lot of gear changes or on a track it was quite annoying.

I don't blame anyone for voting their own self interests because I am doing the same. Hopefully my side wins and it’s just the start of fixing some of our issues.

This bill doesn't have the ability to fix the real problems responsible for the issues at hand. I see one of them being politicians that have no business experience negotiating contracts while having no understanding of how to realize sustainability. If you live in an area where the elected city council thinks that city workers should have benefits beyond what is the prevailing wage package little can be done to stop them from giving that away. They don't have to worry about how long their decision affects the city after they are gone or what will happen if revenue diminishes. It's the fox guarding the chicken coup. The state at one time guaranteed college to Ohio National Guard members to increase participation. It was a great program for those who took advantage of it but it was discontinued because of a law that doesn't allow for one session of legislature to make expenses for another. It was an expensive proposition and one that probably never should have been implemented. Thankfully there was a stop gap in place that brought back the spending to an oversight which stopped it. Should we renegotiate contracts with workers after each election? Probably not because we won't get talented people filling the jobs if they can't depend on their income. I'm not certain what the solutions are but government employees can't stick their head in the sand thinking they can keep going at the status quo while the rest of those around them have had to make adjustments.

The video certainly does point out how the issue doesn't reach far enough and the reasons for it in the first place. The people who were given raises in the new administration I see as an abuse of power but two wrongs don't make a right. We need something in place to keep that from happening just like we are currently trying to do with this issue pertaining to the rest of our government employees. My biggest issue with the whole public employee system is double dipping. Shy of eliminating the S.S. system the public employees should at least have to conform to those standards. The S.S. system is constantly being touted as not sustainable yet workers can work 45 years before realizing any benefits from it. Public employees can work 20-30 years get a retirement then start another career eligible for another retirement benefit.(I’m going to leave their health care benefits out for now.) There is no way that is sustainable and it needs to change. Thankfully the guy in the video points it out as an abuse that needs to be addressed. Hopefully we can get another issue passed to get this option taken away and I would be for the current issue even more so if it was already part of it.

Thankfully this isn't 20 years ago, I would be so afraid. Resorting to physical force to get compliance usually means your idea was an ignorant one. If it was such a great idea you wouldn't need the force to get compliance everyone would gladly be on board.

Once again our new guy is making the exact same post I would have made FOR the issue although mine would probably not have had as many grammatical errors or a God reference. This keeps getting easier I hope he sticks around and keeps things fun. The name calling is just a bonus we use here among friends.

As pointed out above I am absolutely FOR this issue and this could have been my post for the issue. I can vote to put a burden on me or on you so I will vote in my best interest. This issue only affects a small percentage of nurses that work at public hospitals. The vast majority of nurse’s work in private hospitals and this issue will NOT affect them. This is one of the professions where people can transfer their skill sets between public and private. I couldn’t agree more that the politicians caused this issue and it needed to be fixed. We also voted for politicians who had a plan in place to fix these issues but the whiney unions couldn’t take the result of that, they only wanted it to be a one way street when the politicians were complicit in giving our money in their direction. If this issue fails be aware that it is very likely that the union issues will be worse for them than they expect if it passes. Unintended consequences are a bitch. It sounds like some folks find their jobs to be very important to others and not just themselves; in their area it may be true. I have spent a considerable amount of time living in townships that use a sheriff’s department and a volunteer fire department and have used those services exactly zero times. If I can make the rest of my taxes cheaper or at least not go up I am going to take that route.

While I agree that a right to self protection that is guaranteed by our constitution is not equal to keeping non domestic animals that aren't indigenous to the area and shouldn't be used for comparative purposes I will take exception to your willingness to over react with knee jerk reactions in the same manor that gun grabbers often do with misguided legislation. Not one recommendation you just made would have prevented the events that happened today. You can’t legislate crazy; enacting stupid laws thinking you are making a difference just to make yourself feel better is a waste of everyone’s time.

So is it your contention that those in charge of making decisions for staffing quotas are wrong and that we need more public employees regardless of population change? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

Look honey I saved you money and didn't buy another pair of shoes.

Will the union allow for a reduction of manpower if the population gets reduced by half in a given area or do you need the same staffing to cover the same area regardless of population?

That's not me it's the other black guy on the board, you know the ugly one with the unmanageable hair.

As a general rule I like to leave sponsors threads alone because I appreciate their support by helping us to keep this web site going. I will and have chimed in when I have used a product and give my opinion of what I thought about it as a way to help others make up their own minds about a product based on others experience. Not everyone has the same needs or desires when it comes to protective gear nor should everyone. I certainly don't want to stand in the way of commerce but in an effort to give information that I find relevant to this item that just might happen. While this product certainly is better than flip flops or athletic shoes it certainly isn't a replacement for a proper pair of protective boots. For the cost difference between the two I would err on the side of caution and go with the boots. I would suggest everyone who rides on the street to wear good boots and Alpinestars version of these shoes would make an excellent choice. Kinda gruesome: http://www.cbr1100xx.org/forums/gallery/1270120645/gallery_1213_725_31014.jpg This is a picture of an actual member of this site and example of why I think boots are a superior product.

Just trying to see how many of these threads we can get on the front page. I'm bored and don't want to go outside to pressure wash the dirt bike off in the rain.

You would be wrong, hillbilly!

Hey people I don't think I'm making enough money at my chosen occupation can you guys vote to make others pay me more or chip in to help me make more? That would be awesome.

That sounds just like what is happening to everyone else who are expected to pay for the unions that are saving jobs. Now maybe you understand why they don't want to pay more and are for issue 2.

The only people I know who are against it are those who will benefit from it. I have a few friends who an employed by government means and they are all for it because it affects their bottom line. I know of no one who is against it that isn't employed by government means. I talk to a lot of business owners and successful people who have a good understanding of how things work and not one of them are against it. Admittedly they are looking at it as a bottom line issue as well. Both sides are viewing the issue in their best interests I hope the majority of people can understand what the issue is and how it affects them. People were elected to negotiate the contracts that put us in this mess and people were elected that were trying to fix this mess. I can’t believe the little whiny bitches that didn’t like the way our elected officials decided to fix this mess and wanted to second guess them. From now on we should put all of the contracts up for a vote when public employees are asking for more money from us. I expect that to go as well as most school levies turn out in this economy.

I am failing to get a legitimate point. We should emulate the Japanese in our business practices? I don't see where they are regulated to uphold that ratio it's just a small sampling to make a point that misses a mark. Conducting ourselves as they do in business won't lead to a recession or depression? Oh wait......... I will take my chances with our system that allows us to have the freedom to succeed or fail without a formula that regulates my success or compensates me for my failures. I value our freedoms and if you want a government to take care of you like a child you should probably go and take advantage of the opportunity since you don't seem to be able to fend for yourself and want the government to protect you from the bad business men.

So a manager or owner finds a way to increase their market or a way to increase profit and the company is able to employ more people. This person is supposed to be compensated at the same rate as those who are benefiting from those decisions? A company decides to develop a product using their profits from an existing product. The product fails and isn't received by their customers so all the money risked by the company is lost. Do the employees need to give money back to help make up for the risk the company took? After all they are benefiting from the good outcome of a prior risk. Rewarding everyone equally in a business environment is not good for business if everyone isn't going to accept the risks equally. If sales drop 50% and you still have a job should you take 50% less pay? Don't most small business owners take a pay cut when their sales drop?

Oh my fucking God this has to be the single most stupid post I have ever read on this forum. You obviously have no clue what made this country great or how to create wealth. I would suggest you take your ignorant ass over to Japan and partake in their superior system to ours.

Sounds like someone has his issues all mixed up together. What does private businesses CEOs pay have to do with issue 2? Absolutely fucking nothing. Issue two is a tool that is to be given to the public sector so that they might have a better chance at balancing their budgets. Why would anyone be opposed to that? Oh, I know, because it lines their pockets with money stolen from the rest of us to pay benefits to others that exceed most peoples who work and earn a living. I understand how hard it would be for a public employee to support the issue because it will take money away from them just as I would expect those on welfare to not vote for a law to take money away from them. I am for the issue because it will take money away from me. All a matter of self interest for all concerned. My hope is that the majority of those who get money taken from them to give to others will prevail over the minority who benefit from the scam.