Wait, you like to be boned right. I visited OFCC to see what it was like and decided not to join, its so white bread over moderated that I wouldn't have lasted there long at all. I have never seen a reasonable debate take place there and haven't visited in quite a while. I figured that out buy getting to know the site before deciding if I wanted to join or not. Maybe someone should take that advice before joining any site. If this is a liberal site that's news to me, I highly doubt there are any more conservative people than I am on this site yet I can exist with others whose views are different. This site might be moderated a little too much for my liking but I have learned to live with that. (Don’t challenge me on this point unless you have participated in a site with no rules.) If you don't have thick enough skin to argue with the brain dead liberals here then the internet probably isn't the place for you. Our guest did surmise something correct though but it’s a pretty easy one to figure out, Todd and Justin are pole smokers.