I took him on a bunch of core rides then he ended up doing more riding then me last year. He totaled his bike on his first ride with us down on 556, all cosmetic, fixed it up nice as new and now has 2 2007 675's. let me ride one on a 600 mile day last fall. He is a good rider now. pretty quick also. He dont post much on the web but does ride alot with core down south of canton.