i would consider a .223 rifle also, but i like the look of the 17hmr i posted... not buying anything yet, getting opinions first here! im not sure ide need all the takedown of the .223, i have heard that .17hmr would be good for small game and could take down a coyote .... the .223 rifles are nice and i can get one for about the same price, but the unique look of this savage is what draws me to it... i think it would be a neat gun to own and fun to shoot