Tpoppa

New @ Vances/Buds/Fin I've seen: XD9 black w/gear $430-440 XDM9 Stainless w/gear $580-600 So, I'd say $150 adjusting for condition, number of mags etc.

Yes, and payroll taxes (Medicare, Social Security) and employer contributions for all benefits. Typically referred to Total Compensation even though it's really employer's total costs for each employee. btw, lots of FMLA is unpaid.

I have a small business and work with many HR depts. Typically it would be less than 2/3. I would say 1/2 to 1/3 & that number would go down with higher compensation.

Lots of stories like this One of my college professors was giving a speech at a UAW factory. He brought some handouts to pass out to people. When he was walking thought factory he caused a stir, because his handouts were in a cardboard box. If they were in a briefcase or some other container it would have been a non issue. But a cardboard box is protected and they wanted him to schedule a material handler to move about 3lbs of paper. This may be the exception, but this shit shapes the public perception of unions.

You sure about that? Police and FFs have been abusing lax OT rules for years. "You call in sick and I'll work for you, then you do the same for me, OK brother." In Parma, Police were scamming the OT system to the tune of 1st and 2nd year officers taking home over $100k/year. When city officials tried to put a stop to that, Police went on a traffic ticket ban to cost the city revenue. The Police Chief lost his job over it. Officers threatened to shoot or otherwise destroy timeclocks (several thousand $$ each) the city purchased that would eliminate abuse of the already existing OT rules. I happen to know a little bit about this. Once city voters found out about the Police shenanigans, basically every Parma levy failed until this last vote. Reasonalbe limits on Police and FFs OT is long overdue.

Right, and poeple in unions think office workers, "sit in their offices staring at the walls." Without all that "wall staring" there would be no jobs for the union to squabble about.

Yep. For some reason the regular XD Service just feels right in my hand. I don't get the same feel from the XDM even with the different backstraps. I think for most it's just the opposite. I would also trade down to a S&W SD9. Not an M&P though, I already have one of those

There is little if any common ground here. Prolonging this thread certainly won't change that. It'll be an interesting vote. I hope it passes, but suspect it won't

That sucks, but many people are already being hit hard by a rough economy and rising costs for healthcare. Why should state employees be any different? Especially when the tax dollars are coming from the people that are already getting hit hard

For you personally it may be bad. Big picture it's a step in the right direction.

I see your comment. From the link you posted: Is it time for Americans, then, to imitate the Japanese? Executive compensation experts wouldn't advise it. Japan's system is hardly ideal, they say. In fact, many Western investors argue that Japanese executives get paid too little and that performance should be a bigger factor in determining compensation packages.

Thanks for proving my point. If Japanese CEOs average 1.5 million are you saying hourly workers make 10% less than that?

Profit sharing was never very sucessful. Compensation is typically based on how replaceable you are.

As far is the difference in cash value. I would say Buds gives a good starting point.

That is absolutely incorrect.

Trade.

XDM 9mm 4.5 w/3 19 rd mags. Condition is 99%. Few rounds down the pipe. This one has the NRA Gun of the Year logo. I am interested in trading down for an XD9 4" Service or Gen 3/4 G17 or G19 in equal condition + cash.

All that would do is weaken US companies by moving the talent pool of top execs and CEOs to companies based outside the US.

I also have 3 twins in the garage.

That might just be why I bought 3 of them...and a Gladius, and a Pacific Coast, and a Bandit 400, etc

There's always this classic:

Buell riders not = HD riders