I'm not as harsh to say something like that but understand where he was commingle from. To say its just a job will when you haven't been in is a bit foolish. All I can gather is your experience goes as far as your friends story. And if it was just a job, why would he be so against him enlisting then? Best thing I did was join the army. I miss it everyday, so much so I'm 99% sure I'm going to go back in. It was an adventure, as cliche as that may sound. But what I learned while in has proven to be invaluable. Duty, honor, loyalty, selfless service. I've seen acts of love and kindness come from troops that I've never seen on the civilian side. Would you taken a bullet for one of your coworkers? That sort of brotherhood doesn't come about many other places. Forget why we went to the middle east. Those guys fight for their brother next to them. They asked their family to sacrifice their time amongst other things, to give to something bigger than themselves. What has been given up by a soldier and their family, most civilians really don't understand. I've found that many who've thanked me admit to that and know they can't comprehend the gravity of it all. That's one reason they are thankful. Let me also say I felt this way before I went in, now I understand it better. Arguably not all those that serve abide by those set of values. Just like not all cops are jerks, sportbike riders are dangerous assholes and IT guys are dorky dudes with no girlfriend. I've found that a lot of our current support of the military stems from Vietnam vets who were spit on when they got back. For those vets I am truly sorry. But they are a huge drive Ingram force now to correct those wrongs and see that today's vets are not judged the way they were.