With all due respect Rick, that is what UP means by riding over your head. I have done it, and I did Saturday and ended up over the yellow line once (only when I could see nothing coming, and had nobody to follow to see a good line, I'm still learning to pick a line for myself) and once on the ride home, thanks to the wind, again with nothing coming the other way. I know I was in over my head, and I think God above that he kept me safe. He's not trying to make you look bad by calling you out on it (at least I don't get that vibe from him) but wanting you to be more careful. John and Todd made the point when we stopped at the KFC to start on 79 that you need to ride your own ride, which I believe you did, with a couple exceptions. I went around a few people, and a few went around me. No harm no foul either way. Although I guess ego might get in the way a bit when a Ninja 250 goes around a supersport, but it shouldn't! I was going to bust on you for not reading the thread, but I see you caught it already. I don't know, but just be sure not to need one out in the Frazeysburg area. Todd might be the one to show up, and I hear he's "less than gentle" Heh.. Try riding a Ninja 250 when Jagr's around..... Gotta have thick skin around the OR community! I truly believe Rick is a good guy. I think he learned a lesson, and will be a better rider because of it. I look forward to seeing his Kat at the next CSBA ride, which I plan to be attending.