jporter12

I want to go to bed, but I'm waiting for chevy to admit he's wrong.

I'll go grab my coffee.

Better get some 5 hour energy, too. Maybe a few of them!

For the record, he's not totally wrong or right, but I haven't read enough of it actually cite quotes to prove my thinking on that.

That's kinda the point of having an HMO, insurance pool, or single-payer system... the buying power simplifies negotiations and puts the power back with the consumer, not the insurer/provider.

But it's a vicious cycle, they just raise the rates to SHOW that they're giving a break, and therefore making the same amount as before.

It's all about marketing....

We already had a guy at desmohio do something like this to his 998 for a show. I think he used a belt sander though.

Not that it's very impressive if you did it on the track but my ducati rocks reverse chicken strips. I have the blistered rubber on the edges that hasn't been smoothed back out from street riding. On that bike I can get to the edge on the front and rear tire. On the GSXR I can't get the front to the edge. Go figure.

I think on the little 250 I've done better on the front chicken strips tan the rear! The tires are tiny on it though.

Can you or I call up the doctor or hospital and negotiate a better rate, if we're not covered, or self insured?

Yes.

But, will it be as good of a rate as a company that's going to be paying thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills all at once?

BTW, I KNEW that individuals could negotiate. I haven't needed to, but have talked to family members that have done so for stuff that's not covered very well, such as vision care.

You have opinions too now JRMiii2 huh?

Nope, just the facts man....

On this whole healthcare reform issue, I don't think government intervention the way they're attempting to get it done, is not the answer. Providing coverage and making it affordable is what I keep hearing. Instead of trying to subsidize (sp?) it, why not take away from the rich (doctors, surgeons, etc.) to make it more affordable? Make them drop their rates. I find it appalling that almost every EOB and bill I get has an adjustment where the insurance company has negotiated a lower price. I'm not going to blame one specific healthcare provider, but that's just how the industry operates. Can you or I call up the doctor or hospital and negotiate a better rate, if we're not covered, or self insured?

Keep coming up with opinions and not facts.

It doesn't matter, as we ignore facts....

You replying slow... just an example of an opinion. And judging by your response, it struck a small chord - enough for you to mention it. Which once again shows how easy it is to invoke a response. I might think you reply slow, Inya might think you type faster than Flash Gordon... Just like whoever authored that information/opinion YOU posted.

He's just slow.

You are correct with the hypocrisies, but they are in both parties, more so in the left. The high road all the time? HAHA please. Go back to watching your CNN so they can feed you more liberal lies.

News flash...... There is NO high road in politics.....

I HAVE to hear some of the righty talk shows tomorrow.....

(I tend to lean toward their side anyway)

If all else fails......

Where's Fonz with his pissing match "smiley".....

R u srs? The GOP is the PARTY of OBSTRUCTIONISM, and you want to talk about who filibusters more? Do you read the news, ever? Or, are you just repeating talking points you read on Fox?

Hey now! FOX is fair and balanced.... For the middle to the right.... I won't argue that.

Really, the heart of MOST of the problems come back to us, the little guy. MOST people are in debt up to our ears, just as the federal goverment is, and THAT is actually trickling uphill, IMHO.....

No, you're absolutely right, you can bash whatever whenever... but, I'll pull out my Republican playbook and call you unpatriotic for doing so... that's what it was for the last 8 years when the 'liberals' bashed Bushie, right?

I dont' blame you guys for your cynicism or apathy, I can understand after 8 years of swallowing the turds Bush was feeding you, you got used to the taste and are upset now that your diet has changed.

No, I'm disappointed that we were promised "change" and the change we're getting is going from tasting like shit, to tasting like shit with piss (promise of change for the better) mixed in with it!

JRMiii a troll? I never would've thunk dat! He's usually right up on his game.... He must be playing the drinking game and is too drunk....

Here comes the change speech.....

The face of war is TOTALLY different than MOST people are thinking. We're not talking about taking up arms so much as stuff like the financial colapse, cyber terror, small attacks, etc.... We are more connected than ever, and that makes us more vulnerable due to our reliance on that connection.

Seriously, if any of you REALLY believe there will be a true war on American soil in the next 10 years you MAY be more retarded than I thought.

True war, not war on terrorism or drugs

Maybe not a WAR as we're used to, but we WILL be under attack....

Pull our troops out, and make a glass factory?

(Kidding....)

We'll TALK them out of hostility.....

All of our troops are coming home. I guess that's a good thing since we will be fighting on our own land next time.

Can't see the writing on the wall.....

These people want to blame the janitor for wanting the supplies needed to clean up their past mistakes

It's a us vs. them mentality, just like Obama just said, it's a win-lose... no one ever wants to think win-win anymore. It's sad, especially when people aren't cognizant of FACTS or intentionally choose to ignore them.

Call yourself a fact so that we can ignore youm then....

Anyone blitzed yet??/

I'm not playing the game, but I'm about to go make another drink. I just don't want to miss another joke. errr....point....

don't worry j, in 2 or 6 years you'll see this same thread but with different people screaming

qft...

Want to like this guy, since he is the president and all, but..........same song, different puppet

Sorry man, had to fix it again....