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I hear ya on the crashes. There were a bunch of crashes on saturday, seemed like every session in all groups had people going down. Even had a coach go down first lap first session in turn 5. Apparently he wasn't listening in the riders meeting about taking is slow for a couple sessions.

I went 2 months ago and had my first on track crash... 2 turd burglers crashed in front of me and I had no where to go. When I was there there were 24 crashes throughout the day... Great track though, just over booked all the time!

Might be down for a ride tomorrow depending on what time you guys are leaving. I'll keep an eye on this thread and post if I can make it.

Just got back from Barber today. My first time there. Track is pretty awesome, I had a great time. Will definitely be going back. Anyways here are some links to a couple vids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj7NWJVhOz8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ri_FGuwhJA4

Thanks but not really looking for investment strategies especially involving mutual funds. My 401k covers that for me. That's my fallback in case my riskier stuff tanks. The stuff I do on my own blows any mutual fund away. Option calls and puts are where most of my money is going. Just sold some calls for a large search engine today and made over 100% on them in less than 3 months. They are not all like that though but at this point its all 'house money' I'm playing with now anyways.

I don't do individual stocks... mutual funds are the way to do it. No load, with an expense ratio < 1%. Like Cleave said, your best bet is probably an index fund, but I don't own any of those because my brokerage house needs a $10k minimum to get in if it's not a 401k, and I'm diversified enough on my own. In fact, I had an Edward Jones consultant look over my picks to see if he could do any better... he recommended some of his own funds (which had heavy front loads), but admitted that my analysis and ratios for the ones I picked indicated good long term performance and there wasn't much he could do for my portfolio.

Also, like Cleave kinda sorta pointed out, I believe the fact remains that over any given 20-year (or maybe it was 25 or 30, I dunno) period since inception, the WORST stock market performance was still at 9%. So pick any 20 years and that's the WORST you would've came out with in the NYSE. I have the research to back it up, it's just hard to find at the moment.

Basically, if you read this: http://www.fundadvice.com/articles/buy-hold/the-ultimate-buy-and-hold-strategy.html, that's near what I'm doing with my personal stash. My 401k is a wholly different story/strategy.

So how long will you let it go before you decide it's not getting you anywhere? Not trying to be a dick about it cause I was the same way before. I used to hold on to things waiting for them to come back which they would eventually. I have found its better for me to cut my losses or get out of something that isn't going anywhere and move it to something else. Did this with some Sirius that had been under water for about two yrs. bought aapl options with what was left and this turned into double what my original Sirius was. In about two months also.

Not much to handle... I'm "buy and hold" -- my outlook is 10+years with everything I bought. I didn't buy any I expected to flip in the short term.

I just happen to log into my account everyday.

With those kinds of gains I would just let someone else handle it for me. Not worth your time to try and follow the market. Lots of money is being made in this market just has to be played right. This has been my best year and been doing this for about ten.

I agree, I'm only +2.6% now though with the big loser right now being my overseas fund at a -15.3%. Unless you want to remove my reinvestments and go on my out-of-pocket cost basis which makes me about +5.3%

About 1/3 of my portfolio are at losses right now, but most of them are hovering around -1 to -2%, while my the other 2/3rds are winners hovering at an average of 6-7%, with the best at 23%.

Got it. iCloud sync is pretty sweet. Checking out the web and all my iPad bookmarks are on my iPhone

Updated my ipad2 two nights ago and the wife's iphone4 last night. No issues with either, just took a long time to download.

Mine is on the UPS truck to be delivered today. Hopefully i get home before they come since it needs signed for. Otherwise I will be heading over to UPS tonight to pick it up.

Investing like this is like playing craps. Trying to anticipate daily peaks and dips is a losing proposition. I would suggest you buy with the intention of holding until you reach your predetermined gain or loss point. There are stocks that you can trade on momentum but you have to get some experience in the market and what drives it first. There are many things that cause a stock to drop or rise that I feel makes no sense.

This is why I would only be doing it a few times a week, I'm comfortable holding onto a stock overnight but right now there are a lot of stocks that will dip $20 then go right back later that day or the next, which is exactly what apple and amazon have been doing. But if for some reason they dip and don't come back up right away I have no problem holding them because they will come back eventually(hopefully). I am completely new at this which is why I started this thread and why I wanted to get opinion on what people do or don't do.

I agree with all of this except looking into options. Options are way too risky for someone just starting out. They are awesome but you have to be experienced in how they work and know the risks. AAPL and GOOG have been great options candidates when buying on dips.

Not to be a dick, but you dont sound like youre ready to be day trading.

Stock prices arent everything. A 10% gain is exactly that...it doesnt matter what the stock price is as long as you gain 10%. It all depends on your risk aversion and the VALUE of a stock. Stocks dont fluctuate easier just because its $1. Normally, its market volume driving some of those changes. I play mainly small cap biotechs, and normally hold a portffolio of 3-5 companies with various things in their pipelines.

Get onto some of the sites and start doing some research. Look into options also. You can control a lot of shares without a large initial investment.

Id disagree with Jrmii, the market right now has changed...its no longer a buy and hold (and pray) environment. If you're looking for an investment that you can buy and be hands off go buy a CD.

What and how many wires do you need to tap into? I might be able to figure it out if you know what you are looking for.

I have the wiring diagram for that bike if you need it.

You should be able to find the shoei solids for right around 310.00. Call riders discount. Thats what i paid for mine. I've looked at scorpions as a possible track helmet since they are on closeout at STG but i didn't like how cheap the vents look and feel. The quality of a shoei and arai seems much better to me.

I would get there 3-4 hours before kickoff and park in the grass lots behind the fawcett center on Olentangy river rd. Walk down Lane Ave and check everything out there. Grab a beer or two at Riverwatch or Varsity Club. Head over to skull session if interested in the band. It starts 2 hours before kickoff but get there earlier than that to get a decent seat. You definitely want to be in the stadium before the band comes in. I think they come in 20 minutes before kickoff. I like to watch the team warmup so I'm usually in about 45-60 minutes before kickoff.

I'd invite you to our tailgate but I have to do some work on saturday so won't be getting down there until around noon so we are doing the lane ave thing. Trust me you can't get there too early. We are usually there around 6am and we are not alone

Not sure how to get in touch with him but the CR who helped Brent set his suspension at MO is OHP in springfield.

Got ticket today, got quick question he didn't have me sign the ticket isn't that something you usually do?

Thanks. I was happy with them, didn't feel like I was running that fast either.

That's great on your times

Ran a couple laps in the 41's. My best was a 41.15

So what was your time? It had to help having less traffic.

Just got back also. I didn't think the track was too bad. Actually ran a personal best.

Just got home from midohio max time.we got only 17 guys so no traffic.it was little slippery all day,and we have 66F.if Monday is 60 like they say even if not rain it will be ice rink.

Anyone going tomorrow? Just signed up.

There are still cables on the R1. Response is instantaneous, you can't tell the difference. It's pretty old technology, at least in the automotive industry, so i wouldn't be too worried about Honda putting it on one of there bikes. The Corvette has had it since 97.

I hear what you're saying but the crossplane was a new Model in 09 and won wsbk and Hayes went on a tear at the end of the year once they figured it out. They have also won 5 races this year in wsbk. Melandri is second in points.

Everything is relative and I do think easier to ride matters at all levels. Look at stoner this year on the Honda vs the ducati last year.

Easier to ride is awesome, and I would probably love it, but I have trackday/club racer mid-pack talent.

at the professional level, "easy to ride" matters a lot less, because the riders are amazing. What's dangerous with me at the helm is potential with a pro behind teh bars. I think the lack of top-end power hurts the R1 the slightest bit. Clearly not enough that Hayes couldn't overcome it, but the R1 as a package hasn't been dominant this year. Hayes won 2 races this year. He won that championship through SMART racing, and by busting his ass to get poll points, and points for most laps led. In other series, I don't believe the R1 has been on the top of the box in WSBK since Spies rode it in 2009!

So it's good engineering, but not ideal marketing, which is a real shame.

As for BMW and Kawasaki not winning, the Kawasaki had known front-end chatter issues that have been substantially addressed. They also built a hell of a motor during the redesign. Steve Rapp put on quite a show on the ZX10 in New Jersey. I think the package has a LOT of potential next year. I would actually argue that the ZX10 did better this year than the BMW did last year (when both were new models).

BMW disappointed me in some ways. I never thought of it this way until I read an article about a guy building his own race bike, but BMW has always had revolutionary engineering. To see them go out and build a copy of a GSX-R 1000 is kind of disappointing. The S1000RR is a freakin' amazing first effort at a superbike, but it shouldn't be surprising that they're finishing mid-pack. The Japanese manufacturers have been refining that design for 20 years now. BMW has maybe 5 years total of testing and production time. They're just 15 years behind the curve. Catching up quickly, but the race results speak for themselves. The BMW isn't the fastest bike in a road race.

The cross-plane crank thing is a good idea, but for whatever reason, it isn't dramatically better. If it were, I feel like BMW and Kawsaki would have copied it on their liter bikes.

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I don't think anyone is claiming it is dramatically better but having ridden both, regular I4 and crossplane I4, I can say the crossplane is easier to ride fast and it is easy on tires. The crossplane is winning championships though. For all the power of the BMW and Kaw, they can't even win a (dry)race let alone compete for a championship in WSBK, so it's not all about power.

Here's a clip of an interview with Masao Furasawa talking about how the crossplane crank was chosen.

It can be really hard to convince everyone to go in the same direction. So I did some trick. I came up with a pretty good idea - the crossplane crankshaft [utilising 'big bang' technology] - and then right after I joined MotoGP I started a design. Half a year later the first prototype ran on the racetrack near the Yamaha headquarters.

Everybody was looking and the first thing the test rider said was 'this bike feels slow'. So everyone looked at me, thinking 'Hmmm. You are the guy who thought of this...' And then he said 'But the lap time is so fast. It just feels slow because it is very, very smooth and stable.'

That was Christmas time in 2003. Then Valentino Rossi came to Yamaha and rode for the first time here [at Sepang] in January 2004. He is really a genius. He rode the crossplane bike for just five or six laps and then came back and said 'this bike is the best one'. Even though it was slow, because the power was not so much. I had prepared lots of combinations for him to try: Four-valve system, five-valve system, crossplane, single plane. And he pointed to the crossplane crankshaft bike with four-valve.

Before, everybody was so scared to look at a new engine, because for a long time Yamaha had been successful with the five-valve. People said 'How can you throw away the five-valve system?'

I said 'It is a very interesting system. It's lots of fun for a production bike, but the purpose of racing is not fun. Fun is ok, but the first thing we have to do is win. The problem we have had is Yamaha is losing the game for over ten years. So we have to change.'

So the four-valve system and crossplane crankshaft was the best, but it was also a brand new engine design, which is why the power was so slow. But despite that, Valentino still pointed to that engine and said 'this is it'.

Here's some video with me following CBRBrent, Hutch and one of my buddies for a couple laps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj0JmQ7mwtQ

Madcat,

Brad is the guy with me at the twilight when we met. He rides a bimmer. He's not on here though.