I wouldnt say safe pace, you've rode with John, Tim, Brent and myself. We dont really slow it to a pace most would consider "safe" but what we are doing is showing a line. These bikes are capable of more than any of us are so if you have someone leading that has good lines, most anyone can follow. Then they come back the following weekend alone doing the same speed because thats what they did last week but this time they dont have a line to follow and thats when it goes bad. The best bike and best tires on a clean road dont help if you have a shitty line and bad body position.