MidgetTodd

At least last 3 years. Probably closer to 5/6 years. Right after the last round of superbike. 

Exactly. I can’t roll until the track is clear. 

11 minutes ago, jacobhawkins said:

#redflagbandits

@DerekClouser @what @kbrok

Truth. 

40 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

They don't have to work PTR. They can find another job 

While I don’t disagree with you, I see their side too. Riders are definitely bigger assholes to them than the car guys. 

That being said, Mark, Brian and Bill have absolutely cracked down on it and been kicking guys out way more than Todd ever did so its not as big a problem anymore. 

Some of them still hold a grudge though. 

5 minutes ago, OSUYZFR1 said:

You gonna be up there much this year?

Yea more than last two seasons since I’ll be home this year instead of on the road with Gav doing MA. I’ll be at all the major events and at some of the evening stuff. Probably not working any of the day PTR unless absolutely needed but going to ride more of them 

37 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said:

I mean, it's been known for a while bikes take the back seat to cars there. Everything falls on deaf ears when it comes to feedback

The corner workers are part of this problem. I’ve got into it on several occasions over shit they say on the radio and in med center when they come in for lunch. They bitch all the time about bikes and having to work PTR. The majority of them are car people and most forger I ride too and am listening. 

A handful of assholes over the seasons have created that. The bike guys run the flag to get one more lap in more than cars do and the bike guys argue more about getting back out on track after a crash and it pisses them off. 

18 minutes ago, OSUYZFR1 said:

So teen driving school makes more than 10K per event? 50 riders is a lighter day so this is on the low end. PTR is part of the school. It's the highest revenue generator for the school from what I'm told. The school as a whole has to be peanuts compared to the major events the track holds but that goes for any track in the country. I don't think Car track days bring in more money for MidO since the track is rented out. I've heard numbers thrown out in the past and it's not 20K.

Do you know of any org that is paying their coaches cash for track days? Let me know I'll go coach for them.

 

You’re not wrong on your thinking but you’re missing some things. 

The teen driving is generally scheduled concurrently with another event so there’s two incomes and they do not have medical  on for teen school so one less expense. 

And on the car club days, no they don’t pay 20k that’s not where my almost double comes from. I’m speaking bottom line. 

When a club rents the facility they carry their own insurance and they pay medical so Mid O is not paying those two bills. Basically the same deal when WERA runs, they bring their own insurance instead of Mid O and they pay medical. That’s why 16yo can race at VMD but not at PTR because it’s not Mid O insurance coverage. 

All of us on medical are not on Mid O payroll, we’re contracted. Mid O pays us on major events and track sponsored events such as PTR. 

The clubs pay the medical coverage bill on those days. Same as when OSP rents the facility for training. They do it concurrently with another event and pay part of medical. 

Take Medical and Insurance out of the days expenses and that is a sizable bump to the net income for the day. 

That’s the lowest paying event they hold. 

I didn’t say they don’t make money. Said they make little. They cut two of our staffing numbers in medical because of it. 

Car events bring almost double that. 

And 10K is not much when account for what it costs to run the facility for the day. That’s why they rely on volunteer coaches 

1 hour ago, TimTheAzn said:

For a car photoshoot..... like really?

Really. They make very little on PTR and it is last priority of all events 

9 minutes ago, RidersDiscount said:

Good looking bike.  I spent a lot of time working on those Triumphs.

Never had one before but wanted a hooligan bike with more topend than my supermoto so giving this a try. Has next to no miles on it so it’s still on the original Rosso Corsa’s with a 4313 date code. Not sure I want 6 year old tires on it the way I plan to ride it lol. 

I’m sure they’re probably fine but I hate crashing 

Fazolis 

It’s in the other thread but since you’re not as tech savvy as your other Asian brethren I’ll post here 😂

120/180 set Q3+

10 hours ago, max power said:

Let’s see the new ride!

It was in the first post but Tim deleted it prematurely. 

I haven’t removed it yet but I’ll probably be home around 230/3 doing it 

We already had plans for this weekend. Her whole family does a camping trip every year on Kentucky Derby weekend. 

One of the reasons we bought the new camper 

Maybe you scared them

It’s yours. 

No pics at moment. I unloaded it and pulled all plastic and drain plugs. I’ll take one when I put it back together tonight or tomorrow. 

The mount will be on my tool box if you get by the house during your work travels just text me and I’ll give you the garage code

The bike I just picked up has a universal phone mount. Personally I don’t see the point or use them. I’ll be removing it tonight when I tear the bike down and go thru it. Free to anyone who wants to come get it or I’ll just toss it. 

It’s this one

https://www.amazon.com/Bike-Motorcycle-Cell-Phone-Mount/dp/B015UIPMH2

Never seen that. Except maybe a dewy morning session or two when people are being cautious 

4 minutes ago, what said:

They were pretty strict about starting in novice last year if you've never been. You can try to sign up as I but understand they may stick you in Novice for the first session or 2. The only way around it was if you held a race license of some sort. 

 

To be fair, the fast novice group is faster than 50% of I group... 

The way around is not saying you’ve never been there. 

And I have no idea what you are talking about with that 50% faster part. I coached novice there many times. Novice group is not faster than Intermediate. Hell we don’t even let N off their incredibly short leash until the end of the day and even then we still heard them into neat little flocks lol

1 hour ago, TimTheAzn said:

They don't record or check. It's an honor system for better or for worse. At least since the last time I rode there.

This is exactly correct. They simply ask if you have. To which you answer yes and sign in I

You can sign up in I.