Thanks for all the replies. Mags, your side of the world is not plowed as much as the 'burbs. Next time I am out that way, I will call ya. For reference, I live near Cleveland akron Honda ( might be called Ohio Motorcycle now?) I decided to go with the steel rims and BLizzak tires. I know I can have them delivered to my house from Tirerack, but I called the local tire place who is also a Tirerack installer. It is about $20 more to have the tire dealer order from Tirerack. However, the tire place will mount them on the car ( not a big deal,at least the first time) and offer free road hazzard ( good to have i suppose) and life time tire rotation. They classify the change over of the summer / winter tires as a tire rotation, so no extra money there. They will also "relearn" the tire pressure sensors each season. And the final benefit, they will store the tires at their place. Kinda creeped out about this, and hope they have done this service before so that my tires don't end up on somebody elses car. I kinda have room in the garage / basement to store the tires, but now I wont have too. I hope that the Legacy will handle like a snowmobile driven by Travis Pastrana after all this. Thanks again guys.