Never said "you" were a lifestyle rider kind of guy, sorry if I came across that way. Open face helmet huh, guess that would explain the wind in my face comment. This is my 2nd V-Strom and had an 05 previously, just love the damn bikes. 2TallTims C14 is my previous bike, we made a swap last year and are both happy as can be. The C14 is a bad ass bike "owned one for 4 years", but it is a hand full for most of how and where I love to ride. On the slab it will get you into trouble, it is smooth as glass and is laughing and taunting you at 100 MPH. I find the ADV style of bikes to be my kind of machine, they are all about versatility and a major smile factor. You fully have my appreciation for whatever you ride, and there are not many motorcycles that I honestly do not like, I just would never own them. Star and Victory's offerings are far from dumbed down Harley clones, many ex Harley riders are owners of them now, and I am sure for various reasons. My dream bike is probably the latest 1200GS Adventure from BMW, but I am a Strom owner and I am cheap. The stereotyping that many Harley owners have is well deserved, that is why it is called stereotyping........statistics and blatantly obvious. Glad you are not a poser or a lifestyle guy, you will no doubt be a great addition to the forum.