I am not debating on if they are a good car or not. Just that it looks like the op wants to spend under 10k, and he isnt going to find an evo or sti for that amount of money. Hard to beat the amount of car you get for the money of an 04 GTO. Runs mid 13s, 20mpg, and one of the most comfortable cars GM has ever made. But personally neither the sti or evo are for me.