Hi folks, I bid on a helmet in an auction and it came with these men's pants. They don't fit me even with the liner in and they appear to be new or in the very least barely used. They are LG size 34-36, come with a spiffy liner, knee and hip protection. These pants are currently in sale at cyclegear.com for $175, normally $200. http://www.cyclegear.com/CycleGear/Street/Pants/Textile/brand/TOUR-MASTER/Venture-Air-Textile-Motorcycle-Pants/p/28122_59409_21 They are missing a button, which, crap, I just noticed. Boooo. That's $120 discount for the button, basically.