Geeto67

Can anyone really justify either of these cars when you can spend the same amount and buy a real 426 hemi powered 60's dodge/Plymouth and get twice the coolness/style factor points and an actually appreciating asset. I mean that's what we are after right? nobody DDs their Hellcat or SRT 392 and hardly anybody is really driving these things like they stole it, right? It's all about impressing the people who don't have one with the biggest stick imaginable, right? If you are not hung up on numbers matching and that whole gig a 60's roadrunner with a crate hemi is way more impressive.

The track is in Bahrain, so it could be Kilometers per hour (149mph). Baharain's drag strip is listed as being 1.2 kilometers long (.746 miles) so it is possible to run a 1/4 mile strip there. Maybe the camera angle is throwing me off because the track just looked short.

Is that a 1/4 or an 1/8th mile track? Looks like an 1/8th mile to me.

Hardly. Ohio has been such a known speed trap for so long there is even a joke about it written into the first cannonball run movie.

I have to ask about this because I've seen it more than once now. What's with the fucktards who buy really good real gear (jacket, boots, pants, etc) and still rock no helmet? First time I saw this it was a guy on a zx14 with full joe rocket armored gear and sidi boots and a bandana on his head. Yesterday I then saw a dude on a dresser harley rocking an a-stars jacket, a-stars boots and icon jeans and a white fitted baseball cap. I've seen others but those two stood out as the most ridiculous. I'm not a ATGATT guy mostly because I like jeans and can't find leather pants or a leather onesy my size but come on. Just to get back on track does HJC still make the ac-12 carbon and do you stock them? Are they on sale?

Given the nature of this scenario, when the cop sees your historical tags it's going to be when he is running your plate after he has pulled behind you with your lights flashing. Based on the historical tags you may get off with a warning. Even more so now that I am seeing more and more of these car mounted plate scanners so the officer isn't look at the plate itself but the screen. A historical plate probably does not over-rule what I like to call "the douchebag factors". They are: - Tint - lowered - car looks claptrap (i.e panels are mis-aligned or different colors) - loud - obnoxious modifications: e.g 20 inch chrome spinning rims with 0 sidewall. not just big rims, but 13" 100 spoke dayton wires probably qualify too. - giant wing - body skirts - very loud colors - colored lights - Wheelie bar - parachute - non DOT slicks - Bright yellow traction bars (or any bright color) - under car lights - Plate covers - no visible front plate - flamethrowers Basically, ask your non-car friends "does this car give off the vibe that I am doing something illegal?" and see what they say. This doesn't mean you can't get away with two or three of the things. Surprisingly enough the wife's audi has three of the things (tint, lowered, and mildly loud exhaust) but she doesn't get hassled as much as I would expect her to. Part of that is a) because the car is well put together, and b) she is usually driving in areas where the car isn't out of place. In Brooklyn she got pulled over once a month just because in the context of that neighborhood it stood out as being slightly too nice (we never got pulled over in the E30 in that 'hood even though it was lowered and loud because it looked like a piece of shit, but on the Gold Coast of Long Island I got stopped plenty). If you are looking for a reason to justify historical plates, approach it from the cost savings (if any) and the insurance requirements (historical vehicles often have better coverage than daily drivers for a cheaper policy cost). If you don't want to be pulled over, don't give them a reason to.

Where in NC? Honda has 7 Demo dealers in the state: Cycle Center, Inc. 520 Cox Ave Asheboro, NC 27205-7073 (336)629-2092 Team Charlotte Motorsports 3004 Freedom Dr Charlotte, NC 28208-3860 (704)394-6666 Turner's Honda 1111 W Ehringhaus St Elizabeth City, NC 27909-6910 (252)335-5489 Team Powersports 222 Hwy 70e, Bx 390 Garner, NC 27529 (919)772-7866 Ron Ayers Motorsports 1929 N Memorial Dr Greenville, NC 27834-1134 (252)758-3084 Iron Horse Motorcycles 1600 W Roosevelt Blvd Monroe, NC 28110-2753 (704)283-9467 Capital Honda Powersports 10920 Star Rd Wake Forest, NC 27587-7772 (919)719-0700 From personal experience Ron Ayers supports a lot of guys in the vintage suzuki world with parts so they seem pretty helpful. Keep in mind this list is both dealers that are supposed to have demo bikes or are participants in honda's demo ride program. You may have to call more than one till you can find one that will let you ride one as a demo. Why not join the Grom forum and ask on there if someone local to you will let you ride his grom?

I can tell you the loud, obnoxious, marginally illegal muscle cars I have owned are generally the least ticketed cars and the cars that I usually get away with the most vehicular misbehavior (now, not that way in the early 90's), and I have never had historical plates. I actually don't think I have ever gotten a ticket in the GTO and I got pulled over in the late 1990's for doing 110mph on a residential street. My buddy drove a 1967 Firebird for years on open headers and never even got so much as a noise ticket. It's really all about the car and managing expectations. Most LEOs I find are either car guys or at the very least have more compassion for things they find cool. Stereotypes play a lot into also. I don't think the tag will help you in this regard if you are putting it on a 30 year old fox bodied mustang with DOT slicks and a roll bar but if it is on a nice restored original sitting on pizza cutter tires then you are probably going to be ok. I can tell you from experience with my insurance company that any outside use of the car is usually ok as long as you tell them about it. I see plenty of cars on historical plates in the work parking lot on fridays during the summer so I don't think it is an issue. The issue comes when you go over the mileage restriction and refuse to renew your historical plates. FWIW, if you are generally being a dick, Law Enforcement doesn't need much of a reason to confiscate your stuff and there is little a historical plate will shield you from regarding that. Google Asset Forfeiture and then prepared to be afraid to own anything in public again.

sorry double post.

can you wait till July? Honda and kawasaki used to bring demo bikes to VMD at mid-ohio, I don't know if they still do it. I just looked at their factory demo days bikes and the grom isn't on the list so not sure if there is going to be a traveling Demo Day that would cover that in our area anytime soon. Honda does have specific Demo Ride Dealers and the nearest one to us is: Mid-Ohio Honda 494 Harcourt Rd Mount Vernon, OH 43050-3918 (740)397-5272 Call them and see if they will give you a Grom demo ride. I don't have any seat time but there is a guy who commutes to downtown on one. I see him all the time when I am dropping off my kid at daycare. He seems to like it a lot. Do you fit on it? I'm tall and I don't really like it but then again I don't like monkey bikes either. I am going to be the wet blanket and point out it is still a motorcycle and it still requires motorcycle insurance and a motorcycle license. For $800 more you can get a CB300F and that is a real motorcycle that you can take on the highway and will probably cost the same to insure. I can tell you from my fascination with Grom racing that the stock bikes top out around 65-70 and the modded ones will pull 80mph. the Grom is supposed to get 81mpg but the 300F gets 71mpg. There are people hypermiling the Grom and getting 100mpg but that is not exactly riding one fast.

Everything is "enough to go through the side of a house" if you are moving fast enough.

Let's talk about emissions for a second since you brought that up. There are state emissions and there are federal emissions. ALL road going vehicles INCLUDING motorcycles have to pass federal emissions standards. This is why we do not have 2 stroke street bikes anymore. State and local emissions laws are usually only concerned with whether vehicle continues to meet the federal standards. So I am not really sure what the concern is - these vehicles already meet federal regulations so nothing about what is going on here will change anything other than to figure out if these vehicles need to be emissions tested or not at a state level. Considering Ohio doesn't really test emissions for the majority of vehicles currently on it's roads I don't think this is really a problem. Crash standards and safety restrictions? well crash standards are a federal issue, but safety standards are largely a state issue. A lot of this turns on how much are buyers of this equipment going to expect that it have crash standards. The way the wind is blowing I imagine you will see a lot more warning stickers and notifications to purchasers than you will see crumple zones, rollover standards, and door beams, mostly because the marketplace doesn't support that thinking as most of these vehicles don't have doors or full coverage tops, and for the ones that do, maybe they should have some kind of standard so some numpty doesn't buy an elio and then think it is safe to try to roll it because "Hey, it's got a roof". One thing I do know is that usually with new stuff like this they tend to leave things as broad as possible and then amend and legislate based on litigation. Still as it stands now they just want to get the proper warning lables and notices on stuff which isn't happening because of how different these things are from motorcycles and cars.

Is that a Legacy outback sedan? Is it Stick? if so, PM me with miles and your asking price.

Actually this is good because it is looking to deregulate and standardize some of the safety issues that presently concern the three wheelers being classified as motorcycles. exempting them from motorcycle status and giving them their own DOT classification would mean no more helmets in helmet law states and also no outright bans from states where they are not classified as motorcycles and don't meet automotive safety standards. I just hope they include 4 wheel open vehicles in this group so we can get things like universally street legal ATVs and also bring back cycle-cars.

It's a fox mustang, how is that not an outright victory?

It's a little suspicious that all this happened 1 month before he and hammond had to renegotiate their contracts: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31869967 Also apparently he self reported? fishy.

sort of: http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/45/4572.asp It is an action of economic feasibility. If the economic motivation is there they can continue using the camera. I like the above article because it makes a distinction that this is not a Ban where as all the other news sources use the word "Ban" when it technically isn't. I highly doubt the speed cameras will go away, They will just assign an officer to it. It certainly will reduce the number of them. With an officer stationed it may jump from a civil to criminal proceeding as well and get the criminal penalties of higher fines and points. A red light camera's safety protection is dubious. Technically a speed camera's safety protection record is dubious as well but the argument for them is stronger in the public opinion. Remember when I said the violations office was basically a guilty rubber stamp? http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/43/4336.asp He had to go through two different rounds of appeals to get to the constitutional question of these tickets. For every one guy like this there are hundreds that don't fight it this far and thousands who just pay it and move on.

That's pretty much the law everywhere. If you are already in the intersection you may finish your direction of travel (including turns). Its in the standardized driver's ed materials as well. I'll have to go back and look at my ticket and transcript to make sure she said 2 seconds. It's always stuck with me that it wasn't instant but I'm remembering something that happened a year ago. The light I got the ticket at was Sawmill and dublin granville. I fought the ticket mostly because I wanted to see how the process works and if there was a way I could pick up side money fighting these tickets for people. In the end I decided that it wasn't worth it because the way in which that office operates is pretty one sided. They put on a big show and make a lot of effort to psychologically make you think you are guilty or it is not worth the effort fighting beyond their determination. They even offer you an appeal form at the end but as the attorney representing the city said, hardly anybody takes it. They bank on this because there are many things that I would take issue with as being contradictory to existing jurisprudence or just flat being wrong but they get away with because most people don't appeal. For instance the rental car I had lent to my parents, well there were 3 other authorized drivers on that contract and it was impossible to know who was driving because 1) I left that morning and left all 3 other drivers access to the keys, and 2) none of them remembered being at that intersection at that time because none of them are from here and had no idea what I was talking about. Yet the government's position is a civil one that is based on nuisance laws which require clear ownership or clear use. The government can't establish that in this case because none of us owned the vehicle, 4 people had equal use authorization, and their camera equipment could not capture who was in the driver's seat. Yet they were happy as all get out to say none of that matters and I was on the hook because my name was first on the rental agreement. Do I have an appeal-able issue? I think so, but I was there for an hour arguing my point for naught and I would have had to continue to spend hours of time on a $95 ticket (and I value my time at more than $95 an hour).

I guess I should have been clearer: the video is always running, but it doesn't trigger a notification to the office until a car breaks the beam 2 seconds after the light goes red. They pull the stills from the video. In NY they are just simple cameras that take stills with no videos so my brain is still hardwired to refer to the capture event as "Taking the picture". FWIW in NY the fine is between $25-50 depending on the county, not $95.

So are you only targeting Neons, Azteks, and Toyota Corollas? because if so...bravo!!!!

FWIW, the camera doesn't go active till the light has been red for 2 full seconds. At least that is what the ticket office told me when I went to fight one my parent's got in a rental car that was rented to me. It was kind of a bullshit ticket in that they made a no stop right on red in between when the light went from yellow to red and the green right arrow for that light lit.

Makes Sense.

Really? I never see any ads or stuff on your website.

So I live right behind Tuttle mall, and I am trying to figure out how they are going to setup a "course" in the parking lot that will even be close to satisfying. First of all most of the lots there are small and slope downward toward the ring road. Also every one of those parking lots have quite a few immoveable concrete base light poles. I'd actually like to do this just so I can say I drove lambo (I've driven a Ferrari - a Daytona coupe and a BB 512) even if I am just whipping donuts in the parking lot but it would be nice to know I could do this without fear of making a very large, brightly colored, Italian boomerang using a light pole.

If you get any 1970's non-running wrecks that you are going to pass on or would like to make a quick flip on, send them my way. I'm always looking for SOHC cb750 stuff, norton commando stuff, or old tonti frame guzzi stuff. Or if you need help evaluating old racing stuff you are not familiar with let me know.