Geeto67

Volksfest is this weekend in pataskala: Watkins Memorial High School at 8868 Watkins Road SW in Pataskala come out and ask there, going to be a lot of aircooled vdub people. I've heard good things about Dandini's and german autowerks but don't know them personally: https://dandinis.com/ https://german-autowerks.com/volkswagen/ I heard Carl Drewhurst at Vintage Aircooled Repaired was the man to talk to but I think he retired last year.

does your MKC allow for 87 fuel? or is it requiring 93? I haven't seen a turbo car that didn't require 93 octane at all times. I think this test is kinda dumb. The question isn't do you see a benefit in a car designed for 87 running on higher octane, it's - what long term damage are you doing running a car recommended for 93 by running on 87? Most modern cars will pull timing to keep the engines from pinging, but how effective is that? long term is it wearing holes in the pistons? ruining plugs? burning cats?

I would be interested in seeing that too, esp on the ATS-V. I was a skeptic for a long time on the ATS-V, I mean if it doesn't have a V8, why waste the V badge on it, right? plus it was a complex car and as a rule GM and complex are sometimes a recipe for disaster. That said, after looking at one at cars and coffee on sat, I am starting to come around on the car. It was a stick, compact sedan, that made 464 hp, and to me the only missing piece was were they reliable? now that some time has passed (first models were 2016) they are seeming to be fairly reliable so it would be interesting to see where they are in value when they hit the 5 year mark.

Sounds like you need that chute they are telling you you need, lol. Congrats, on running fast.

What happened to the 370Z? Shop your auto loan. Most have no pre-payment penalty, but every once in a while it does come up. Look at mfg loans too since they often have the lowest interest if you qualify (sometimes 0%). Qualify for a loan before you go in the dealer, even if you plan on using the mfg financing, this gives you an option if the dealer can't get their financing to work. the difference in interest rate between 48 months and 60 months is rarely ever more than .06% and it sometimes pays to have the extra breathing room if you need a month to make a minimum payment, if you are paying it off early anyway then you probably won't pay any more anyway from the extra .06% in interest

nice score. love the wheels.

I remember the first cars and coffee when you got this, I don't think the seller had even sent you the title yet. Doesn't feel that long ago but I guess it has been like 4 years. GLWS

When they reformulated it to pass API SM and SN ratings they pulled a lot of the zinc and phosphorus out of it. Need to make sure when you are buying the T6 you aren't getting the weak stuff.

that's a nice ford GT :gabe: I am leery of a GM DCT. GM for the longest time was the hold out saying they could do a torque converter auto better than a DCT. Hell even chrysler had a DCT before GM, and that is saying something. In typical GM fashion, GM's dct will either be expensive and amazing or will feltch ass through a twisty straw. I am interested in finding out which.

Well people can ask what ever meth fueled fever dream that strikes them, what the car actually sells for is a different story. Based upon what I see in the pics, and what I see in the market for this car It's a high price but not so high as to accuse the seller of taking lots of drugs. The factors that play an important part are the stroker 427 (which I am guessing is a crate since it's "jegs built"), the TKO 5-speed, the ford 9" (although not mentioned in the description which may be a negative) with signs of a recent rebuild, disc front brakes, and the repaint which if it wasn't a "frame off" was certainly a down to the rolling shell job. The things that maybe keep it from getting that crazy ask? no A/C, carb'ed, no "Aftermarket disc brakes" and no rear disc brakes, the non-standard color (although it is still pretty), the rear tires not being a 300 series rear or something massively meaty, the boring interior (it's not even a pony interior), and the fact that at $27K it's close enough in price to a halfway decent 1969 fastback. The car should be trading for around $18K, but I have no problem believing that the owner spent $30K and the shop selling is trying to find the one guy who "has to have it" and is willing to pay a premium. Who knows, they may get lucky.

By most popular metrics, yes. Some would say the 64-67 GTO's are the original muscle car, and this being the internet others would argue with that citing the J2 olds, the 57 fuelie chevrolets, and a host of other cars that came before 1964 (by the way they were called "supercars" until the late 70's - the name muscle car originated in a similar way to the way we call lifted trucks bro-dozers). But I digress.... The value of my GTO and GTO's in general are interesting to track. In the 1990's, despite there having been a spike in muscle car prices in the late 1980's the more common stuff like SS396 325hp cars and 335hp GTO's just weren't worth much. I paid $600 for my 1967 SS396 roller in 1994, $3000 for my running Goat in 1997, and I passed on 1969 RA III vert GTO in 1996 for $4000. Right about 1997-2004 musclecars took another big leap in prices and my beat to heck GTO ended up being worth about $16K still needed bodywork and $20-25K being the price for a nice, clean, show worthy common (335hp) GTO. Then the financial crisis happened and well the value of a lot of toys tanked for a while. Right now, a show worthy pristine HO GTO is worth about $45K, more pedestrian 335hp cars in the same condition change hands for about $35K, indicating that the cars kept up with inflation (roughly 2% a year for 10 years) , but didn't grow a heck of a lot. Other cars I track lost a little bit of money, people were paying stupid money for show worth 1969 z/28's right before the financial crisis ($150K+), but I see some changing hands for below $100K, same with midyear big block corvettes, etc... To be honest though, the talking about money thing when it comes to these cars wears me out. At one point it seemed important to know where I stood in the car so I wasn't throwing good money after bad, but that this point - I'd rather just be using the damn thing (esp since I can't). When I was driving it I remember having a lot of conversations with people about wishing they could afford to have one and I used to have this shitty attitude about "well if you want it make sacrifices for it" but the older I get my opinion has changed a little to I wish more people had the chance to own these without having to treat it as precious as a house or a stock portfolio.

actually they are, because like any market there is ebb and flow. I believe for the 1950's cars peak value has already been hit, the prices have been on a slow decline for at least the last 20 years, caused by both inflation erosion and demand in the marketplace. My family has a 1957 fuelie corvette (early posi car) and at one time (1999-2000) that was almost a $200K car, not if they could pull $125K out of it they would be considered lucky. the musclecar aftermarket is huge, you can get almost anything you want from complete shells to every rubber part for the majority of the popular and semi-popular cars. It's harder to get parts for a 1967 tempest or a lemans (of which they made half a million of) as compared to a 1967 GTO of which they made 86,000.

Muscle Car Hoard is the appropriate thing to call this "collection". It's hoards like this that reaffirm my belief that the "muscle car" market is grossly overinflated. Very few of these cars were ever really "rare", they just appeared rare because people with lots of land, a little money, and making irrational financial decisions decided it was more important for them to let it sit in a barn then someone else get use out of it. I'm glad a lot of these auctions are happening because maybe it will give regular people a chance to own fun cars again without worrying about them like they are a 401K.

Dublin has a really active skate park, why not just head over there and see what the other kids are riding. Kids, esp the good ones, are usually more tuned in to this stuff more than anybody. Otherwise I say get a variflex board with a set of slimeballs (lol)

late braking, he must have missed the brake marker.

Exactly. I kinda feel the same way abotu religion too, the "organized" ones are man made constructions, there is a certain freedom that comes with being ok with not knowing the mysteries of the universe. It's not the staunchly anti-aliens person you have to worry about, it's those who are so uncomfortable with not knowing the answer to a question that they overlook context in order to be pro-alien. Mankind is not meant to know everything about it's environment, but that should't keep us from trying. There are some questions we should be comfortable in not knowing the answers to.

It's a little far out because there is no one "government". There is the federal government, and then there are state and local government agencies (like records offices), government contractors (like private hospitals), and there are just straight up private institutions whose record keeping isn't subject to government scrutiny and have no value in compromising their core record keeping. This is the great value of bureaucracy, it makes conspiracies about "erasing" people hard to believe because it's literally too much damn work. It's way easier to kill them and make it look like an accident (which is something that has happened). this is an interesting follow up on the "birth certificate" which poses the much more credible theory that Lazar and Coast to Coast host Knapp are just bad at research: http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/the-bob-lazar-corner/lazar-flaws-the-birth-certificate/ That's confidence story telling 101. If you are already communicating to a receptive audience, telling them you don't know everything while supplying just enough detail to make you sound relative and credible and shifts the focus from you and your credibility to the larger story at hand. Of course when you are talking about aliens there are going to be unexplained things, that's way more credible than if you had an answer for everything, but providing enough background detail to sound like you know what you are talking about gives someone who wants to believe it some substance to latch on to. I am not saying it's all outright a fabrication, there is probably some truth to his story, but whether it's a grain or a pound is going to be hard to sus out in the absence of further proof.

It's good to keep an open mind about this stuff...including the people who are spreading the details. Lazar has been consistent in his story for a while, and it has been proven he was an employee at the Los Alamos Labs, and he was the first to really highlight Area 51's existence to the public, but at the same time he claims to hold two degrees from institutions that have no records of him and he has a history of running afoul of the government (from prostitution to selling illegal chemical combinations used to make home made fireworks). General consensus is usually that's hes a little out there even for most UFO skeptics I want to believe, I really do, but honestly some of his claims defy physics as we know it. I remember hearing him on Coast to Coast when I was living in new orleans and his delivery is really compelling - he has a way of speaking and a logical format that makes you want to believe him. nobody says you have to buy into this or dismiss it entirely. It's ok to just let it just hang out there with "its possible, maybe".

That's not really the precedent, neither party is going to "ram it down our throats". What they will do is make it easier for the manufacturers to ram it down our throats through a series of tax breaks for both the companies and the purchasers, plus favorable actions (including eminent domain) in favor of the companies to make it easier to disassemble the old infrastructure. Most of it will happen in the name of "smaller government and fewer laws" that will remove restrictions from car companies buying certain industries, or privatizing otherwise public utilities. It will be the private companies themselves that force us to comply by taking a viable market and pumping it up while phasing out the old product. Tesla already proved that semi-autonomous cars are a market driver, and all the OEM's are already on-board, now its just moving market efficiency over to that being the norm so the companies can maximize profits and it becomes more expensive to have a car without autonomous tech. Once we have all already semi-voluntary adopted it by buying the tech because we have little choice, then they will legislate it out for good because there won't be that many to oppose them and by then it will feel normal anyway. That's maybe 50-60 years from now. the greatest motivator for adoption is always money. Look at how quickly EV's and plug in hybrids became viable as soon as the government offered massive tax incentives. I don't feel like a bolt is any more or less complex than the Ev1 from the 1990's, the battery tech got better and that's about it. if you want historical examples see: General Motors streetcar conspiracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy decline of national public transportation in america https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2018/08/how-america-killed-transit/568825/ https://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/charting-public-transits-decline The history of the gas station infrastructure: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-10-29/electric-car-companies-can-learn-from-gas-station-history

read this: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/how-self-driving-cars-could-ruin-the-american-city/569518/ I don't think the EPA is the driver of any of this tech. yes there are environmental considerations, and to a larger degree the EPA is in support of autonomous public transport as it would yield a much larger efficiency, I don't know that they are completely on board with individual autonomous tech. Yes they have seen as much as 10% reduction in emissions during testing, but that is only if the companies that control the tech decide to do that - which the EPA has little power to compel them other than to offer incentive to the mfg's to voluntary comply by issuing them credits if they do. https://www.autoblog.com/2016/03/24/study-autonomous-vehicles-improve-mpg-epa-tests/ It's a shame that Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan set the EPA up to be the enemy of the performance auto industry, because right now we have faster cars that are cleaner than they have ever been as proof that we can have speed and a clean environment.

Not to turn this into the political thread, but since you brought it up - most of the autonomous regulation is bipartisan and slightly conservative leaning. A lot of silicon valley is getting a pass on the development of this more so than any other companies in the name of "free market capitalism" - not progressive legislation that wants to hold the companies accountable for the accidents they cause. Silicon valley as a whole is right leaning to begin with on this issues of business and technology, so much so it has it's own name: cyberlibertarianism. A lot of the traditional organizational supporters of democrats like the teamsters union are against self driving tech. This idea that self driving cars are the tool of the hippie liberals is just garbage built on stereotypes, not actual policy or what's really happening in the legislative world. It's seems like nonsense rush limbaugh would say just to get raitings. https://www.autonews.com/article/20140504/OEM06/305059996/politics-begins-to-steer-driverless-car-s-future https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/09/how-self-driving-cars-could-ruin-the-american-city/569518/ https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-self-driving-politics-20171121-story.html

manual swap it.

I don't know that you even need a budget level camaro....you just need to make the base level v8 camaro now sell at the same price as the challenger. the base challenger R/t is $34,545, and dodge runs a heck of a lot of promotions on it like the $250 a month leases and rebates. it's 375 hp, and the scat pak is 485hp and $39,245. A base 1ss Camaro runs $37, 495. Sure it makes 455hp, but to what end? You can literally see chevy's bean counters at work here - they are trying to attract the buyer between the R/t and the scat pak, but that's such a small margin they aren't hitting the target. If GM offered like a $3K rebate on a base 1SS camaro for anybody trading in a challenger or charger R/t or a mustang I think the sales would pick up right away. right now they offer a $2K rebate for anybody trading in a mustang but it is private offer only through dealers and I think only applies to the non-v8s. Other than that there is a $500 rebate and that's it. Meanwhile, dodge has multiple stack able rebates on all challengers ranging from $250 to $1000 and then you have this dealer offering $5K off an R/t chally: https://www.dupagechryslerdodgejeepram.com/inventory/new-2019-dodge-challenger-rt-rwd-coupe-2c3cdzbt6kh549590 There is nothing wrong with GM's product. In most ways the camaro is the better car than the challenger, and on par with the mustang. However, there is everything wrong with GM's pricing strategy and reluctance to issue rebates that most people can use. And so dodge eats chevy's lunch.

while that is true...these are still businesses and the camaro will still be produced as long as a business model can still be made for it (i.e. if it makes money or makes good will GM is going to continue to do it). Even in 3rd place in the market share behind challenger and mustang the car is still one of GM's most profitable cars with the least amount of rebates. Even if it is a calf as compared to the SUV and Pickup cash cows, it's still a cash cow in it's own right. Whomever says 7th gen is being cancelled is full of it. If anything my money is on GM doubling down on the 7th gen to take back it's 2nd place spot from challenger. The 2 biggest drivers of sales away from camaro have been interior room (something I personally despise about the new camaro as well) and color choice (which dodge is killing it with the retro color and stripe packages). GM has played it too safe thus far - their car is the most expensive, has the greatest aftermarket support, and yet is the most boring to look at off the showroom floor. Come on chevy, lean into the camp a little like dodge did with the demon and hellcat - you have the better car, now market it better. give us something like the camaro "spider" (calling back to the corvair and Monza performance models), a fangs out mascot emblem and a strobe stripe made of black and white spider webs on a hugger orange, marina blue, or daytona yellow car would crush. You could even show a rumble/super bee mascot caught in it's web in the marketing. this shit writes itself. http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/04/as-dodge-challenger-secures-lead-over-chevy-camaro-brand-is-determined-to-compete/

I was thinking of a honda 750 engine which has two seperate oil circuits that converge before the pan, and also how Chevy reversed the cooling on the LT engines in the 90's. I haven't touched a Chevy small block in at least 12 years, sometimes the memory gets fuzzy - that's why we ask questions.