SpecialEd

On 10/3/2019 at 3:45 PM, Tonik said:

You spelled mental wrong.

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46 minutes ago, durk said:

This is what happens when teachers talk too much

A strong rebuke from a colleague is enough to shut me up. Done.

2 minutes ago, motocat12 said:

How many people bribe to get their kids into online colleges?

Answer: none. However, online degrees are often legitimate. Those universities that provide career education are catering to people who are currently employed and need continuing education in order to advance in their career. Just a matter of supply and demand, combined with a course schedule working people can deal with.

7 minutes ago, Tonik said:

My memory of inane details is weird, happens a lot. Perhaps we can do a fall tour of the closed or soon to be closed U of P locations.

There would be nobody attending that ride except you and I; and you would likely bail . . . understandably.

21 minutes ago, Steve Butters said:

Who wants to fuck? Where'd the new girl go? 

That's sick and inappropriate. Luv it.

22 minutes ago, Steve Butters said:

I did my bachelor's mostly brick and mortar with a little online mixed in. I did my MBA 100% online. The quality of education really is different. My bachelor's degree took way more work than my MBA. I finished my MBA in 18 months taking one class at a time (all my job would pay for) and I pretty much only did school work on Monday and Thursday nights. Unlike @SpecialEd, I didn't really care about the "quality" of education since I didn't need the degree to do my job, I just needed it to check the box on my resume for MBA and make me more eligible to promote past my current level. My program was cheap (free since my employer covered it), quick, and it was fairly easy, though I've always been able to coast through schooling. To each their own, but online education can be good or bad, it's all about what you make of it. In my entire college career I never once read a full chapter in a book, online or at a campus, so I'm not sure there's a ton of dofference. 

Wow. This discussion could go on and on . . .

The debate over rate of return vis-a-vis the cost of college has gone viral. Steve, I TOTALLY get what you're saying--you were able to punch the requirement for an MBA without spending $50,000 doing it. There's a lot of merit in your situation! In my estimation, there are many students who should not even go to college. They will end up making substantially more than I did the first few years of my teaching career oh, and will have spent next to nothing on trade school to get there. 

Butters, you will learn more on the job than you ever would have in a good school pursuing your MBA as a grad student, but your degree got you "in," and that's worth a hell of a lot.

3 minutes ago, Tonik said:

I hate to go off topic here and talk about motorcycles...but did you ever get your bike done?

My God, Jim, I'm amazed that you even remember this project!

It was promised to me "this summer," but the builder is still "wrapping it up." Many of the parts are JDM, so there is more time involved sourcing them from overseas: swing arm from G' Craft, fenders, oil cooler, aftermarket speedo/tach, etc. 

Hoping to get some break-in miles on it before the snow flies. Just sent the builder $3k to cover parts--the first payment I have sent him since the project began in 2016. This is a ridiculous amount of time to wait for this bike, but I want it to be perfect. I would love to ride with you guys once it's done--provided the ride is a scenic one and not a 90+ mph romp.

I wish Sam would chime in on this thread. I miss his anger and acerbic, biting commentary. Sometimes Tonik is just not enough . . . 

1 hour ago, Steve Butters said:

Look! Something we have in common. I love bitches too! 

SMH . . .

3 minutes ago, Shoop said:

The original poster lady is NEVER coming back. 

You are correct, sir.

3 minutes ago, Tonik said:

I will take that as a no to my question. Follow up question:

Do you think a brick and mortar education is factually more valuable, or are you just subconsciously defending the value of your profession?

Unfortunately we may have to dismiss your answer as it too may be subconsciously influenced.

1) after graduation, I received the union-prescribed initial step raise: $5k/year. Since then, another $15k/year was added. I am now at the top tier, but will be retiring soon.

2) no, my Hiram master's did not earn me more than a master's from another school. My intention was a quality education vs. a sheepskin from an average school and a lackluster education.

I love OR, where literally anything is possible. Endlessly entertaining, just as is listening to the inane babbling of a bunch of drunks at an Ohio campground during a summer weekend evening. Priceless . . . 

1 minute ago, Pauly said:

You two should just fuck and get this over with. 

You don't know that that hasn't already happened.

A valid comparison of the quality of my education at Hiram versus that of a U of P drone is unfathomable, much less possible.

Just now, Tonik said:

Damn dude, my ex-boss did it online with U of P in one summer. Did you get a bigger raise doing it the hard way?

This would be a discussion too lengthy for the average OR member's attention span--and pain threshold. Suffice it to say that there is always something substantial lost without the physical presence of grad students in a room working together and discussing course content. This is where the true learning takes place. Writing a solid master's thesis is just proof that one has achieved mastery of the course content comprising the degree requirements.

38 minutes ago, Tonik said:

 

Did you get your Masters in EDU online or did you drive to a brick and mortar school each day?

Went to Hiram College--a brick-and-mortar skool--three nights per week and all day Saturdays for almost three years. My masters is in Interdisciplinary Studies, which is a specific area of a master's in education.

2 hours ago, Shoop said:

Simple:

Ed and Steve are trying to invent a newer less MCP way to drive lady riders off of the forum. So they are trying the "Let's debate the current state of the American Education system" a.k.a "let's be boring as hell" approach. 😁

Seems to have worked. The OP seemed pretty feisty. But she hasn't been back since the first dictionary lesson. Which I thought was well done - by the way. Pretty sure that it went right over Sean's head.

 

For those of you that missed the heights of the women's lib movement, or have forgotten it, MCP is male chauvinist oinker. 

Betcha the history lessons work just as well.

 

Chris

occasionally called a pig, but never a chauvinist. 

I freely admit that syntax, grammar, and mechanics can be a rather pithy and off-putting subject, as can the specifics of a soon to be defunct experiment in post-secondary education. However, I love and respect all women unconditionally.

14 minutes ago, Steve Butters said:

Funny, I drive past their campus every day 🤷🏻‍♂️

U of P's story is a long one. If you visit their website, you will see a large list of "campuses" in many states. When you click on a location, you will see that they are closing all these buildings, but will see the current crop of students through their remaining academic program. The organization was successfully sued by the federal government for tens of millions of dollars for grossly inflating the post-graduation employment statistics of their alums. They are moving to an all-online platform.

11 minutes ago, Steve Butters said:

I actually went to school in Columbus. Noob. 

😆University of Phoenix is an online "college", noob. Not brick-and-mortar. And not in Arizona.

1 hour ago, Tonik said:

Yep, right now he is telling all his squirrel friends about the awesome new amusement park that just opened.

I dunno, that launch angle looks pretty low. The furry bastard prolly rolled a few hundred feet when the slid back to Earth.

13 hours ago, Steve Butters said:

Fuck off noob. 

Did they teach you to talk that way at the University of Phoenix?

12 hours ago, Tonik said:

You are welcome @SpecialEd

 

 

I doubt this furry bastard survived the g force produced by the launch. However, the device is pure genius in its simplicity.

21 hours ago, Tonik said:

 

Normally I would agree with you, even though you are a dumbass. But as you can see from the sentence construction above they are four different items. The use of commas makes that clear.

Going to page our resident special English teacher @SpecialEd for a final ruling.

Comma after the word "tub." Tonik is correct.

1 hour ago, redbarron77 said:

Is this supposed to be a GIF? I don't get it . . .

Just curious: Do all of you who ride together have the ability to communicate with each other (Sena, Shoei, or some sort of app)? Or do you mostly rely on a prearranged plan?