Trouble Maker

I'm with the 'you're a pussy' group, even though 75% of them are probably afraid of some weather (heavy rain, snow, mud, cold).

The motor is not what you are buying in my mind. It's just going from high 5.xL to a 6.2L, few more HP and TQ. You buy that truck, in theory, for it's off road capabilities. The little difference in power is nothing. Don't get me wrong, if I had to pick I'd get the bigger engine. But if I had the money and really wanted one I wouldn't think twice about getting the current one. You'd be dumb to wait over a few tenths of a liter engine size increase. I too would rock the fuck out of one of these.

I think it was $4500, or $3500, plus scrap value (since the dealer had to scrap it and they get money from that). It pisses me off regardless of the car that they must be destroyed and not reused (i.e. going to a junk yard). That would have been by far the most environmentally friendly way to do this since that would help others to keep their old cars on the road. It's a waste to destroy all of that, even if it's to recycle it, instead of reuse it in it's current state. And no matter how you slice it and what kinds of gas mileage you are talking about, keeping an old car on the road is much more environmentally friendly than making a new car. But this was never really about the environment despite the MPG basis for this whole sham. Overall this bill definitely had a negative impact on our environment and a questionable impact on our economy.

Here's a nice condensed list http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/24/shed-a-tear-for-clunkers-that-deserved-better/

Ted's is decently priced IIRC. $10ish, maybe a little more, a plate.

The layout is just about the definition of a FWD based AWD car, that's not necessarily a bad thing. It is what it is and it makes them front heavy. What's a sports car, what's a FWD based AWD car, those are semanitcs and made up terms that we could argue over opinions on. Curb weight is a pretty rigidly definied thing and includes a full tank of fuel. 3384 lbs is a big stretch and I can about guarantee is with no fuel (which is not the definition of curb weight). Sorry, I'm going to trust Edmunds on this one, they have no motive to fib. http://www.edmunds.com/used/2000/audi/s4/1646/specs.html I'd be willing to put some money on the 3384 being the exact car I said earlier. No sunroof (I'm sure you know this, but sunroof delete was the option and there are very little of those cars), base model (so no added weight of any other options) with no fuel. Again curb weight, what almost everyone talks about when talking about a cars weight, is with a full tank of fuel. Then some other liberties taken, like no spare. 2700lbs is stripping every god damn thing you can get your hands on out of that car. I didn't know that all early 2000's didn't have aluminium uprights. I was under the impression that every car below some VIN (approximately) was aluminium uprights. At any rate, my car did have aluminium uprights. Do you want me to go dig up the print off's of my car's weight? Which I do have one without a full tank of fuel (can't remember how much) and 1 with a full tank of fuel. Not that it matters because we know how much fuel weighs and how much the car can hold (hence my ~125lb for fuel comment earlier).

Go there, then go to your reserved seats up in the box area at the movie theater. Fun night. I can still taste those bison short back ribs I had there, probably one of the better meals I've eaten out at a restaurant.

That's not bad for a FWD based AWD car, B5 S4 is around 60/40 and I'm being nice with that number. Little forward bias is actually good for a daily driver.

I'd say high 33xx is plausible. Those seats are heavy as fuck. The sit 8 inches off of the floor (not much room below them) and have airbags in them. That's a big asterisk on that weight not being a stock car. The only 'stock' weight's that matter, what I consider stock weights, are full tank and empty tank. Then differentiations for trim to see the weight range. Everything else should be stock, including spare. But what do I know?

Again (I think it was you who said the same # before) where in fuck are you getting 3200lbs from? Jone's, mine was ~3600lbs full tank of gas, sunroof (standard) and cold weather package. It was an early 2000 so aluminium uprights, not like that would have made much of a difference. This was on a CALIBRATED scale accurate to .5 lbs. I think 3600lbs is what they are usually quoted at. 3300lbs is a stretch, maybe a base, non sunroof car with minimum fluids (no gas, no washer fluid), removed spare, on a slightly inaccurate scale. No gas is ~125lbs and no spare or tools I would guess to be 35 lbs? All of that other crap is menial. IIRC the CF sunroof delete kit took out 10 or 20lbs (after market so the stock sheet metal is probably more). Another 8 lbs or so for the gigantic windshield washer reservoir (it's larger than a gallon). Then whatever for no cold weather package, no bose (if that matters) and no disc changer. I can't even guess that weight difference other than saying it's probably not much. I'm going to call that 200lbs being nice about it. There's still 100lbs missing and another 200lbs to what cred think's his car weighs.

Or you could buy six and get on of these when the come out.

That's some funny shit.

Owned by the same people as surly girl. Went there for the first time on Sunday and it was very good. Macs for the scotish egg? Bodega is really good and good selection of beer. North star has really good food and while not a wide selection of beer and wine they are always good ones. Never had food at surly girl but they do have a good beer selection.

And it's easy to break them trying to move them without the proper equipment. I know the front legs on my parents have almost bitten the dust a few times just moving it a few feet to clean.

I've sat in the first row of 26A before, really fun to be that close to the field right at the end zone!

Brian, is this the supercharged one Not even sure if your dad still has that car or not, haven't been down to the shop in a while.

LOL at the crazy Japaneses. http://gizmodo.com/5364097/japanese-erotic-game-uses-webcam-for-boner-detection

Hoblick is hot... I mean. :whistle: I'm doing the P5x right now.

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Want to go hiking?

And you're in Granville so you can go to Brews too!

He's only had bull scrotum in it's original form, definitely not minced.

Not funny.

We came withing about 15 feet of one down in the Great Smoky National Park this summer hiking. I definitely didn't stop to take pictures. Cool picture. :bangbang: My aunt and uncle have some land outside of Athens and I would have assumed that I'd never see a bear down there.

How do they taste when they get bigger?