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Not my Dad's division, though he had plenty of contact with Buckeye Steel over release violations(oil in sewers, etc...). He's in Emergency and Remedial Response, which means he gets called in when it's pretty fucking obvious that someone screwed up, and he cleans up the mess and gathers evidence. However, he USED to do inspections, and Inland Products was one of his personal missions because the owners were fucking untouchable due to political protection. The plant is shut down now, and the EPA is preparing it's case if the company doesn't voluntarily remediate the site, which is fucking disgusting... This is the kind of crap he gets to deal with, and remember, this is just the stuff from his Facebook page, that he can post publicly. The pictures that he's shown me from criminal investigations and ongoing clean-ups is far worse. An oil/water separator in an abandoned rail yard broke, and flowed into a stream: http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs078.snc3/14568_194726769589_744934589_2859621_3202176_n.jpg A metal salvager (read; fucking thief) cut off the top of an old oil tank, which overflowed inthe next rainstorm: http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs058.snc3/14568_194721949589_744934589_2859610_1648167_n.jpg Salvage yard fire, you wouldn't believe the shit that comes out of a salvage yard. Set one on fire, and it's even worse: http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs078.snc3/14568_194734249589_744934589_2859642_7394769_n.jpg http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs058.snc3/14568_194734274589_744934589_2859645_6583209_n.jpg White light shows where aluminum and magnesium are burning: http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs058.snc3/14568_194734334589_744934589_2859652_7694623_n.jpg Manure from an overflowed storage lagoon flowing down a stream: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs058.snc3/14568_194745724589_744934589_2859720_6315502_n.jpg Fuel oil leaking from a basement tank traveled two miles down this stream before anyone called the EPA: http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs133.snc3/18070_217039109589_744934589_2942843_6115754_n.jpg 1982, a company truck dumping well brine into a ravine. Well brine is many times more concentrated than sea water and contaminated with oil. Pretty much anything that makes contact with it dies. Pops and his co-workers worked from concealment and documented over a million gallons dumped just at that spot. http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs232.snc3/21970_246786024589_744934589_3096397_5416421_n.jpg

Eric, my Dad works for the EPA. You ever want to see some really horrifying shit, let me know, and I'll have him put together a Greatest Hits collection out of his resolved cases. BTW, in a long-awaited victory, Sanimax, or whatever company it is that bought the old Inland Products rendering plant at Jackson Pike and 104/Frank Rd, is apparently going to shut it down and begin remediation. That means that when it gets hot this summer, we won't have that fucking HORRIBLE smell covering the south side.

PMed.

Umm, I'll tell you right now, if a tow company dropped my car anywhere other than exactly where they agreed to drop it, and didn't call me and get my approval FIRST, I'd call the cops.

Interesting, they found another use for the surplus of ricer wings in winter.

I love the old dude in the background with the broom and the shit-eating grin...

I'm watching the re-broadcast of the women's two-man bobsled right now, andI just noticed that the Canadian womens uniform have what looks like a web of duct tape across the ass...reinforcement?

Depending on whether I stick with this car past this spring, I will, along with the custom dual-core. If I keep the thing, it's going to be a real project. If not, then I'm going to tear it down for parts. At this point, I can't even begin to get anything worthwhile for it as a running car.

Could you imagine sticking it in a tailpipe and finding out it's Bub Rub's car? Da wizzle's go OOWWWW!!!! OOWWW!!!

What all "stuff" is there on your radiator? I really want an aluminum dual-core radiator for my Buick, but the thought of all the crap hanging off/out of it is a bit intimidating...stupid thing has the trans cooler built into it, for crap's sake...

Curses, foiled again! Fine, I'll stay out of the thread here and stick with my fellow Toyota haters elsewhere. The Romper Room isn't nearly as much fun as the old Kitchen...

That's great news. I would have thought, looking at the scan, that there was some serious danger of damage to his eyes. Hopefully nothing like that turns up.

Lol, the paper trail is already largely public. Public statements made by Toyota versus NHTSA documentation and Toyota's own internal communications. The whole story is right there in the open. Any additional evidence that turns up is just a nail/icing in/on the coffin/cake.

Yeah, I AM enjoying this. I'm positively giddy. I've been laughing my ass off for three days straight now watching those lying scumbags stammer and stutter on the stand. Toyota has rested on its reputation for reliability for years, a reputation that they haven't EARNED for years. Maybe while this shit is playing out, the government will finally take a look at the shenanigans they pull to get out of covering engine sludge failures. Damn, you think they're fucked now, just wait until the NHTSA starts looking into cases where owners have had every single oil-change performed on-time in Toyota's own dealer shops and Toyota still tells them they're not eligible for coverage under the sludging settlement. I used to like Toyotas. A Cressida is still on my short list for my first real project build. They used to build cool little cars that were fun to drive and ran forever. Now they build ugly, soulless shitboxes that sludge up, rust in half, randomly drop spare tires on the freeway, cost ungodly amounts of money to fix, and kill their owners. And when they get called out on any of these issues, they lie their asses off.

Totally aside from Gilbert's weird little experiment, Exponent recreated the acceleration problem through software on Monday, according to Toyota's own man on the stand. Yup, in a Congressional hearing, Toyota's Head of US Sales blew up the spot and admitted that the problem CAN and HAS been recreated solely through software, by their own investigators. Can't wait to see what happens tomorrow, when they start putting up the Japanese execs and engineers on the stand...

The Congressional hearing over the Toyota recalls is being broadcast now on C-Span 3, as well as streaming live: http://energycommerce.edgeboss.net/wmedia-live/energycommerce/11990/100_energycommerce-2123_060901.asx So far, the Head Of Sales for Toyota US is making a complete train wreck of things. The Delegate from the Virgin Islands just verbally destroyed him, and our own State Rep. Betty Sutton did a pretty good number on him, too...

Wow, the bigotry is heavy in here today. Video backs him up, fuck all else about his "dialect".

There's a few caveats, such as the parks still being subject to state carry laws. They just removed the Federal restrictions on carrying.

Wow, you REALLY haven't been paying attention. Toyota maintained at the outset that they had no evidence or previous reports of accelerator problems. It's funny how NHTSA records show an investigation about EXACTLY this problem was started in 2004. The Prius was thrown into the floormat recall in spite of the fact that the Prius acceleration issues had occurred at least once in a car that DIDN'T HAVE FLOORMATS INSTALLED because it was on a dealer test drive. Or how about the problem with the Auris in South Africa, where Toyota denied that there had been any problem with the failing steering column brackets, in spite of an internal bulletin concerning changes made to materials because of safety issues. And it's not even like this is at all in question. The 2004 NHTSA investigation was uncovered made national news, and even after that, Toyota still denied having known about the problem in 2008. They lie, they get exposed by their own documentation, and they make up a new lie, they do everything within their power, legal or not, to slow down or obstruct the recall investigation process, right up until a few days before they would be ordered to do a recall, then they try to act like the problem is some new revelation, do a mea culpa, and claim the recall was undertaken out of concern for their customers. Frankly, I think it's time for the government to force Toyota to offer a buy-back program for those models that have been affected by multiple recalls, like the Tacoma, the Prius, the Corolla...

Do you really want to come down on the side of a company who has been PROVEN to have lied about issues that resulted in deaths,and then CONTINUED to lie about the problems? Yes, Toyota covered up their problems, this isn't even a question except for people like you who haven't been paying attention. Toyota has no fucking clue what's going on, that apparent from their own publications. "It's the floormats, it's friction, it's condensation, we never knew about that problem, what's that paper in your hand with our company service bulletin letterhead on it? We changed the materials in that part to combat a safety problem, but we didn't actually know it had been a problem before we put out the memo to make the change to combat the problem that we just said we didn't know about..." And what happened here when Ford had all of it's problems? Did they get torn apart, same as Toyota? Yes, they fucking did. People on here and everywhere else in country tore Ford to shreds over the Exploder rollovers, the fire issues, the 1st gen airbag fatalities, and everything else. So don't go all persecution complex because you happen to own a car from that shitpile company. BTW, here's the articles on Steve Wozniak replicating the accelerator issue in the Prius. I assume one of the greatest software/hardware geniuses on the planet is a good enough source for you? http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/11/prius.cruise.control/index.html?iref=allsearch http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/04/steve-wozniaks-prius-prob_n_448778.html http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/03/apple-co-founder-my-prius-has-a-problem-too/ And there's plenty more, if you don't like any of those sites: http://news.google.com/news/more?um=1&cf=all&ned=us&cf=all&ncl=dSmnAJ9ZI6Y21CMisbUROUTJMqf2M Here's a few more articles you should maybe read: http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-02-10-toyota-south-africa-knew-of-steering-problem-in-2008-said-nothing http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/21/autos/toyota_document/ http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/08/toyota.recalls/index.html?iref=allsearch http://www.designnews.com/article/448825-Poor_Plastic_Selection_Caused_Gas_Pedal_Failures.php?nid=2334&rid=1142364 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iQQ34S6JO4atWukmMagF8-He-vPQD9DTQULO0 http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_news/100213-Toyota-Tacoma-Recall-Announced Oh, and just in case you're going to go off the deep end and join the stupid fucks that think the NHTSA is persecuting Toyota because "the government owns GM", well the Japanese market cars are gettin recalled too: http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/02/08/950066/dip-in-resale-value-adds-to-toyota.html

Chevette, strengthed Fox T-bird rear, Buick turbo 3.8 or built 3800 S/C, built/tuned for road rally, ala Vauxhall Chevette HSR.

The strut, it looked like. One pothole, and he'd dead. Let's pray for a hard winter where-ever he lives...

I just wonder what's going to happen to Toyota when it finally gets proven that the real problem is in their ECU programming. After all this shit, including the fact that their "fix" knocks off the top 5% of the throttle, I think the revelation that they're STILL lying about a fatal problem is going to sink their reputation for good and true.

Or head down to Deer Creek State Park to the range there. 100yds, 50yds, pistol, outdoor, $5 a day, just pickup the ODNR range permit at Gander Mountain, or I think WalMart and a few other places have them. I think they're closed til the beginning of March, though, IIRC.

um, Scary Black .22? Skip it. It's like putting a Lambo kit on a Fiero. It might look somewhat like a Lamborghini, but it doesn't sound like one, and it sure hell ain't gonna do what a Lambo does. Get a good target stock with a floating heavy barrel if you want something worth putting a scope like on it. Which BTW, who the hell would mount a scope so low on the rail that they can't fit the caps on?