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Chronophage=coolest clock ever...

um, wut? Elk most certainly ARE native to Ohio, they were just hunted to local extinction many years ago. I hate when "journalists" say shit like this. It's the same thing as when they call a 10-.22 an "assault weapon". Anyway, he got a clear enough look at it to identify it as a deer. Elk ARE deer, just not a White Tail. BTW, the Elk is most likely one of the small herd that escaped from a local farm a couple years back.

Signed, posted to my Facebook, and will post it on several other sites.

What a patently stupid idea. Go take a look at any stretch of pavement in Columbus and tell me if you can find a section more than twenty feet long that doesn't have a long crack in it. Pavement cracks, carbon nano-tube paper tears along crack, no more electrical circuit, no more heat. The only way this is gonna work is if they repave the heated section every single year. Concrete might last longer, but the difference in price makes the idea ridiculous.

I don't care about strict, strict is fine. What I care about is "gray area" and this bill is NOTHING BUT gray area. The potential for abuse is horrific, and I think every single person on this board could probably find at least one instance where some Ohio police dept has abused their authority. For fuck's sake, do you not remember New Rome? How many years did they keep a clearly illegal speed trap on Broad St and skim off the top of the ticket proceeds? Could you imagine someplace like New Rome being handed a law like this, where they are given the right to seize a car, sell it, and keep the money? You don't have to be driving like an idiot to get fucked by this. You don't even have to break ANY current laws to meet the definition of street racing laid out by this Bill. It is ENTIRELY at officer's discretion, with no limits placed on that discretion at all, and if/when a person is convicted, it leaves almost ZERO discretion to a sentencing judge. The section on "street racing manslaughter" is fine, it seems to work, but the rest of the law is completely ridiculous.

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Fuckmothering Christ, that's gonna give me nightmares tonight...

Yeah, I should make myself a little clearer: I have ZERO problem with the penalties laid out. It's the vagueness of the portion of the Bill that defines the offense that pisses me off.

Having been a security guard at a retail store, I can tell you that the ONLY circumstances under which ANY employee of a store or LEO can detain a person for shoplifting in the state of Ohio is if an employee, guard, or LEO witnesses that person remove an item from the store. That means they have to SEE the person take the item, and they have to have visual contact with the person until they reach at least the inner set of doors. At that time, they are allowed to intercept and detain, including the use of force if necessary. While checking receipts isn't illegal, any attempt by any employee to detain a person short of those HIGHLY restrictive circumstances is going to be a violation of the persons civil rights. WalMart is putting their greeters and employees deeply in harm's way by not giving them proper training in how to handle suspected shoplifters. BTW, I have to say, isn't it convenient how the recording only starts a couple seconds before the hit, and doesn't show anything that happened inside the store? I'd be interested in seeing the rest of it.

Same advice as I gave the other guy, sign up over at http://www.hpisavageforum.com. The 3spd can be pretty touchy to get tuned, and a couple companies make rear hub carriers to replace the upright/knuckle set up on the rear. Just don't mention the Rustler...lol

If you guys watched all the way to the end, you might have noticed the chunky-style on the ground under the car. He blew a rod out the side.

He wasn't touching the radiator at all. Radiator on almost every modern car is behind the condenser core for the A/C. On my Buick, which runs a little hot normally, I can put my hand on the front of the condenser core even after sitting in traffic for half an hour, and it will only be mildly uncomfortable. On the backside of the radiator, though, yeah, I'd get burned. The coyote also has the benefit of having a thick winter coat this time of year, so he had plenty of insulation to protect him from any real heat. He'd have had an uncomfortable, but warm, ride.

Nice body work, but: good body work+faggy stance-bimmer drivetrain=gayer than Ru Paul getting cornholed by Larry Craig.

Really? It's written into this bill as mandatory. You get convicted, your car gets taken, period, no judge's discretion. And with the way the law is written, all you need is to get pulled over by a cop in an asshole mood to get arrested and charged for it now. It WILL happen. People WILL get charged under this law improperly, they WILL be convicted, their car WILL be taken and their lives ruined.

Hah, got this on my iPod. I need to find out how to get it on my Voyager as a ringtone(without paying for music I already own, fuck that shit)

More than that. EVERY traffic pull-over will have the potential to cause you to lose your car, get jail time, pay heavy fines, lose a job due to lack of transportation, and face complete financial ruin. I'm not kidding when I say that you could literally lose EVERYTHING because of what would otherwise be a speeding ticket. Even if you hired a lawyer and fought and WON, you would still spend thousands of dollars on legal fees and bills, and you would still lose your license for the duration of a possibly years-long fight through appeals.

BTW, the reason it will pass with flying colors in the legislature is that every single slimy little fuck in the room will know that when it comes time to get re-elected, a vote against it will be in every commercial their opponent makes.

But the public will NEVER see it that way. 99% of the voting population will never even know the bill is on the ballot until they go to the booth, and then they will only look at the title of the bill, and they will see that it's a law against street racing. Street racing = bad. They'll vote for it without ever knowing what they're signing away. People are SHEEP. They'll follow the Judas Goat right up the ramp to the killing floor and never question the blood and guts on the floor til the knife goes in.

Unfortunately, going by evidence at hand, we can say that it absolutely WILL be abused as often as possible. Yes, there have been legitimate street racing busts recently, but we ALL know that even current street racing laws are abused on an alarmingly regular basis.

You think that the public will vote against it?

That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. This law seems to be deliberately written to allow exactly that. If you speed, if you take off hard from a light, if you take a corner hard, if you drive your car in ANY manner that sets you apart from the normal flow of traffic, they can arrest you for street racing under this law. They could probably even nail you for braking hard.

It can, and it WILL, because nobody is going to speak against it. Even if someone did speak against it, they would be ignored as being supportive of street racing, rather than simply against an abusive law.

It's not about being a "fan" of the bill. It's ridiculous, and the potential for abuse appears to be almost deliberately written into it. I'm not going to be PC about this. If she is aware of how badly this law WILL be abused, and still allows her name to be used on it, then she's made a choice and she can live with the consequences. If she is NOT aware of what is in the bill and the potential ways it can and will be abused, then why is she putting her name on it anyways? I don't know the details of her injuries, or whether she has any mental impairment or whatever. If she does, then her FAMILY should be protecting her from having her name put on such horribly written legislation. In any case, the lawyer/lawmaker/politician(s) who authored or sponsored this bill need to be removed from office.

The "Monica Durban Law" is up for debate today on the House floor. The bill as it is written: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/BillText128/128_HB_191_I_Y.html The Bill Summary: http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/analysis.cfm?ID=128_HB_191&hf=analyses128/h0191-i-128.htm Kiss your cars goodbye, people, this shit gives the state the right to seize your car for leaving hard from a light, even if you're the only car for five miles around. If you get convicted of street racing -which now includes ANY AND ALL hard acceleration, high speed, hard cornering, even if no other car is participating- then the court will be REQUIRED, not allowed, REQUIRED to seize your car, with no discretion given to a sentencing judge. So quite literally, if you take off from a light any faster than the rest of traffic, an officer can decide you were racing, arrest you, impound your car, and the court will convict you, take your car and either crush it or sell it at auction. Even worse, if you are WITNESS to a race, they can decide you were ENCOURAGING the race, and THE SAME PENALTY APPLIES. Worse, there doesn't seem to be any limitation on what can be considered "encouragement" of a race. This means, potentially, that if someone talks about a street race on here, and they get convicted for that race, hat anyone who even says something positive about that race can be charged with street racing, and face jail time and long-term license suspension. In addition, for you guys with nitrous systems, they're going to require you to sign a statement saying you won't use purchased nitrous "in any motor vehicle that I operate on any public road, street, or highway in the state of Ohio." Gee, it doesn't say "in any motor vehicle BEING OPERATED on a public road", it says that you can't use it in a car that you operate on a public road. That leaves a lot of room for them to decide this means that even if you never use it on the road, they can charge you for using it at the track in a car that is also driven on the street. If you "violate" that statement, they'll charge you with misdemeanor falsification. This bill gives police and courts free reign to consider ANY behavior they disapprove of as street racing, and destroy the life a livelihood of anyone they wish to without even having to produce any kind of real evidence. Monica Durban either doesn't have a fucking clue just how badly this law she's allowing her name to be attached to can be abused, or she is so dead-set on revenge against a dead man's friends that she doesn't care that it's going to destroy people's lives.