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Not saying personal experience isn't applicable, but there are thing's that you pickup operating a dyno, professionally, for a substantial amount of time. Engines are engines, all are governed by the same laws, its a matter of semantics when it comes to the software.

I own firearms, both a pistol and a few precision rifles. I'm active in civilian marksmanship and tactical training. I study ballistics and gunsmithing - all in the name of science to figure out what exactly makes an accurate firearm. I punch paper, my food is store bought, I don't find any recreation in killing a defenseless animal in the name of "sport". I keep the pistol loaded, at home, but don't carry it into the public domain. I see CCW in the public domain as an answer, possibly apart of a solution, which consists of better involving gun owners, extensive background checks, etc. I don't mind jumping through hoops, nor do I mind paying more if it comes down to not having the funding to support such things. I don't support banning of anything, but I don't support exclusive access.

What were the sources of the weapons used in the Columbine, U of Ten, Mall shootings? Wasn't anything class II or class III - what makes them unobtainable -- what can be applied in the same fashion.

Then why have such a negative attitude?

I wasn't aware you haven't been profiled by the majority of the people you've come across in life. Where have I said anything about regulating where or who carries??? What you want to do in your spare time with drugs is your business, I'm sticking to firearms. For the x100000 time, if a system is in place to keep the majority, not all, but the majority of fully automatic, suppressed, etc out of the hands of people not fit to own them - what in that system is successful that isn't at the lower levels?? Where do you do your shopping, really... You have a really positive attitude here. The majority of people I'm around are ex-military/military/CCW holders/LEO. Ask any one of them if they have ever heard me say any less of them because of their choice to carry. I've listened to their experiences. I think there's a bigger picture to it all.

I don't know what planet you've been living on, but the majority of people in this country picture a terrorist being of Arab decent. NO! Stop, read, think. How many crimes are committed with fully auto ARs? How many times do we hear about people launching an M203 into a school gymnasium? How many times have you read about school shootings involving a fully dug in, mounted .50 - because its only a matter of time and money to get such things. If the government/gun manufactures/vendors have been successful in regulating that equipment, who says they can't extend that downwards? I'm willing to pay a few dollars more and wait a few weeks longer if that prevents a firearm from ending up in the wrong hands. I'm willing for the ATF to knock on my door and ask to see if I'm doing my part to make sure my weapons are secure. I'm not telling you to bend over for Uncle Sam, I'm simply suggesting you should be on the pill if you're going to do the nasty with him.

Maybe you didn't get the joke/reference, but I look like a terrorist (its a running joke here), and apparently people in Delaware think the same. The only thing I can tell everyone that wants to 'Act' so quickly is that I hope you're ready for the aftermath of when that bullet leaves the chamber. No training will ever prepare you for it.

Backstreet's tuner is/was a former GM Engineer - you should be in good hands.

Do I honestly have to post a self portrait of myself to show that it's not that hard to get class II and class III permits - just forms, time, and $$$$.$$? I'm astounded by the extremes in both directions. I've never supported taking away guns, nor have I supported carrying them in the public domain. I don't know what I have to sing or dance to convey there just might be a bigger picture to the issue. Do I have all the answers? No. Do I see things that could be improved? Who doesn't? Do I want to take the path that leaves the least amount of blood? Definitely. Think.

Vanishing few? I could give you references to a handful of people that have these "extraordinary expensive permit", from mechanics to financial planners. Think about this, If you can look like a terrorist in this day and age and still get one, must not be to hard to get, eh? In my mind that means there is still some hope to better control the distribution of firearms. Will it solve every problem? Nah, but could it have prevented Columbine, U of Ten, etc..;investigative reports tend to think that way. I don't think you know me well enough to offer that challenge. Most people will tell you I'm a diehard gun nut/science freak. I spend a vast amount of time around firearms, both long barrel and pistol, mostly in precision shooting. I've also spent a collection of time with people who've had to make choices and bring lives to an end. Honestly, I'm glad there are people like Matt out there (maybe not as crazy ) but, glad regardless. It's because people like him there isn't a ban on some of America's (and other countries) most bad ass rifles. The last thing I want to do is take away what I personally enjoy, but I'm willing to wait another week or pay for additional costs for more extensive background checks to help keep firearms in the right hands. Want to inspect how I keep my guns locked up and tucked away? Sure, come on in, I'll get you a beer...

So how many mass murders/robberies are committed using Class II or Class III equipment?

Personal opinion, Dyno Brian. I don't doubt Eric's abilities as you can't take away from what IPS has done (despite how you feel towards them) but having someone at the helm with a substaintial amount of time is a good thing.

Non politically correct speculations: Cadillac Escalade EXT 4WD (Mike Jonessssssss) Subaru Impreza WRX 4WD (Insert NASIOC thread here) Hyundai Tiburon (Probably has something to do with Women) Mitsubishi Lancer (Insert EvolutionM thread here) Scion tC (I don't have a legitimate speculation for this one, shitty commercials?) Acura RSX (age group?) Nissan Sentra SE-R (are you serious?) Suzuki Forenza (liability??) Nissan Sentra/Mitsubishi Eclipse (see #3)

Let me make myself a touch clearer: incidents are going to keep happening, the world is crazy place, no doubt about it. The majority of the mass murders listed could have been prevented without any blood shed, just more paperwork. Why respond to a problem with an answer, why not a solution? I'm not ruling out CCW, just trying to convey my opinion that it's an answer, and there may be better solution(s)

Didn't know Knox County had so many on Death Row...

I have to ask: How many of those mass murders were committed by persons that owned and operated illegally or were later found not suited to own and operate a fire arm? Without getting to personal, maybe there is a bigger picture? Maybe more lives can be saved without having to take them. I weigh life as a very heavy thing, taking one may be necessary, but I'm of the opinion, make sure it's absolutely necessary.

I don't think Hitler is going to try and car jack you, meaning, I'm not trying to convey flying the French flag, but, think of how many videos and stories of shops getting robbed; notice the shots do not usually start flying until another firearm is introduced. You aren't a threat until you present yourself to be one in my eyes.

I really like the way Eric put this: I would rather them outline me in chalk then any who are caught in cross fire...because at that point, two people holding guns....you could safely assume one of them is going to pull the trigger.

I agree completely. Let the Police take care of the public domain.

As they teach Officers, "Diplomacy through war"

Not really an example of what I was trying to present, let's try something like: Person A feels the need to rob Person B, Person B pulls - Person A Pulls, shots fired. An officer responds to the incident without witnessing who escalated the engagement. What happens? I'm just afraid of blue on blue action.

Throwing around ideas, personal views, etc on the internet is mostly harmless. Once you pull a trigger, there's no going back. I'm going to try and spin your post (keep in mind, this author is pro-things that explode and has an uncle named Sam) What exactly is a justified shooting? Is there a global doctrine stating the rules of engagement that all CCW owners must abide by?

What if two CCW's draw on each other unknowingly? What if an officer spots a CCW mid draw and takes it as a hostile act against him or other unarmed civilians? What if a CCW mistakenly spots an undercover officer......etc, etc. I'm not against guns, or the right to carry, but identifying hostile intent with such an open playing field personally makes me leave the XD9 at home where I can (a) identify you and (b) make an educated guess of your intent to be somewhere you shouldn't.

My drag bag could pass as a soft shell guitar case Needs some of those 70s peace symbols though, nice touch.

When is there going to be a CCW for long barrels? Crazed gunman on the interstate bypass again? No problem, America's finest federal gold is chambered...