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Some initial thooughts: There wouldn't be enough room for the shit in my pants if I was that guy How there was no fire is beyond me 5 star crash rating for whatever that vehicle was He should play the lottery

Same here. Be prepared....if you know someone close that has served, or have served, the ending credits and slideshow will bring tears. One of Clint Eastwoods best.

I'll PM you.

just going by what I've seen here man....no offense. I wasn't at the OD's office with you.

Now hopefully people will better understand the benefits of Fast Glass, ei.....f/1.2 to f/1.8 lenses and Full Frame Camera systems.

Not sure who was trying to sell you what Personally when it comes to vision, which I take seriously, if anyone tries to skimp on quality with my family I'd bitch slap them as again, vision and the quality of is a pretty high priority for most or at least for me it is. If they broke at the lab while being fitted they would likely have replaced them. If it was purchased through managed care, most carry a 6mo to 1yr warranty but again, that will also vary depending on the plan your employer set up. If it was a private pay no managed care deal, that warranty will depend on your office and their policy that hopefully they covered and you were aware of at the time of purchase. Hell most electronics today only have a 90 day warranty. Overall however, most are good about covering issues related non customer caused issues as their labs and vendors will cover any manufacturer defects. Meh....most private OD's don't sell crap product unless a customer pushes them much as you are doing in this thread to go cheap. In that case, you get cheap. Would be happy to cover it but and offered to do so via phone where it's much easier. If you think this thread is long and I'm long winded, just ask me to type out all there is in terms of quality differences. You're the one who said no thanks. You're welcome. Yes, it's Tim. Just sharing the straight facts and no BS. If you're good with Zenni and what they are providing, who am I or anyone to tell you differently. There is a value difference for sure. Some would call it over-paying others would call it getting more value as the product is indeed better. The question them boils down to is it better to you? Only you can answer that. I'm the kinda guy that typically targets most purchases at the high end of average or low end of high-end. I don't go crazy expensive or low end cheap. YMMV. Good chatting.

I'm just sharing facts that there are indeed quality differences and as per the request outlining where those differences are. Mainly I don't want any mis-information about a subject I'm more than familiar with to be put out there. There's a difference with being mad that you broke a frame or had a frame break and taking that frustration out on yourself by using a sub-par quality medical device to correct your vision. That's like refusing to eat healthy because you didn't like the fact that a restaurant served your veggies undercooked one time while you were out to dinner with your wife. CR...where an expert in the field knows the differences between cheap crap and the real-deal and that pinching pennies on your vision is about as ridiculous as it gets. Besides, any MOFO on this site can afford a great well made pair of glasses....I don't give shit if they make $8hr. they can afford it; they just have to prioritize their vision. That I can't make them do.

The difference is you have no idea what design they are selling you and know that not all designs are equal. details about my employment aren't something I share with everyone. Call me silly. The McD's comment is true. Lots of people eat there and are happy feeling full afterwards as that's all they are after. No thanks. I'm 45 and an emerging presbyope. Laser surgery isn't capable of addressing that. Also note that even laser surgery won't keep you from needing reading glasses as you age and it may even introduce more problems as you age. What I'm saying is if you want to see better than without anything, buy $10 lenses. If you want to see what you've been missing for all those years, get a real pair of eye wear. Glasses are a personalized medical device, not just a fashion statement. They are the most valuable and used device any of us use in life and yet people spend more on phones without thinking and will argue all day about saving a few bucks on glasses. CR...where everyone is a race car driver that bangs supermodels and knows more about health care than those working in the field and feel the there's a conspiracy around every corner.

^^ This.....and a triple play for shits and giggles. PM Trey Latham aka IVRings here on CR and ask him about what I'm sharing with you. PM Anthony and ask him if I don't have one of the most advanced and fucking kick ass labs he's seen

:lolguy: You educate yourself and go in prepared. You have two guys in this thread that have tried to help you..... Buy the right product, namely digitial, and you'll get a compensated Rx Card that looks like a credit card noting all the detail of the lens, it's topography verification and authenticity of the actual product. I'll gladly explain more if you PM me. I'll even talk live via phone if you'd like. Doubtful. Zenni likely just pulls the $1.50 blank off the shelf and provides you a cheap-ass spin-coat Antiglare. About as Ghetto as you get and it happens tens of thousands of times per day to unsuspecting people everywhere. Another analogy is it's the equiv. to a steak from Bobs Big Boy and a dry aged steak from the finest steakhouse around.

In the world of lenses, the lower end ones are equiv. to standard definition whereas the more costly but better ones are equiv. to high def. That's about as simple of a difference I can say. Vision will have a wider field of view, far less distortion, aberrations and generally is much better. The difference increases noticeably once you go above a +/- 2.00 Rx. The reason for the differences are based on the lens design and how they are produced. Go one step further and you can have lenses customized to your frame and how you where them. Done correctly it's like having wheels designed specifically for each corner of your car taking into account the suspension and more. That's about the best way to explain it. Properly fitting glasses is like performing a quality 4 wheel alignment. I suppose I could do one at home and my car would track straight, but honestly the eyeglass business is a business of millimeters and whether you choose to treat your eyes like a old Civic on K-Mart Rubber balanced by a guy who flipped burgers last week, is up to you. You will see better than without them, but the difference between your pair and mine is night and day and I'm speaking just about the lenses and how they were fit/measured for each of us. Think custom suite vs one off the rack from Burlington. Your OD Is correct. The lab or store that fitted your glasses will likely have a policy on Patients Own Frames (POF) but they are indeed likely where the fault was caused. Again, spend one day in a lab that produced 4-6k pairs per day and I'll show you breakage on frames that are brand new. It happens. No, POF's are not warrantied at my lab nor many others. Old brittle frames adjusted improperly by their owners during their day to day use are not something I would expect a store to cover. New frames that were not fitted by the office....ie you took your Rx online....are not covered either and rightfully so. Chances are the lab that fitted your glasses didn't properly trace the frame and the lenses were too big thus the frame was "adjusted" to make them work. Thing VW's streeeeched wheels and sidewall issues. As long as you're happy, knock yourself out. I'll try and hook up Jackson and depending on his Rx, I'm sure he'll see a pretty big difference.

^^ This is 100% true. Again, PM me for details.

I prefer to keep certain things via PM. you're pretty much there with the general population that just wants to "see better". most enjoy McD's too. However, the reason you pay $100-200 more is because these are your EYES and your VISION is something you use more daily. More than anything else and IMO that's NOT where you SKIMP on quality. My point is not about frames. Frames are all cheap and most are all made poorly unless you're after some higher end trendy ones which very few here on CR would likely appreciate. Sorry folks. However, I am about the lenses as I manage several of the largest labs in the US and know how glasses are made. and lots of folks here Daily Drive cars Neons and Civics. No but there are differences in terms of quality if vision and adaption over time. Even single vision has quality differences. Again, it's your vision. Lots of folks enjoy Vizeo TV's and can't tell the difference between their units and a high end system. Hey....perhaps it's their glasses! Somewhat serious too.

Was hoping to see a delivery guy driving his car into their office taking them all out.....

if you're an independant why would you support Lux products? Safilo...please....karma is biting them in the ass.

^^ This. NOT Lenscrappers, Visionworks, etc.... A private independent OD or MD if needed. Feel free to call me. I work in the industry and would be happy to fill you in. Let me know what part of town you're in too. I know most all the docs. My local optometrist charged me $110 for my "quality name brand" glasses, not including the exam and the frames failed within 6 months. ^^ Who's your vision provider. Likely VSP or Eyemed. Hopefully VSP. Their brands of frames will carry a much longer warranty. The lenses are the key and how they are made. Again, PM me, we can talk live and I'll fill you in. If I make you a pair of quality digital lenses and put them up against ANY of the online companies, you'll see a difference. Even single vision. Any script above a +/- 2.00 you absolutely will. Ask me how I know.

Congrats Slimpsy Which we are now going have to change your screen name to Slimmy. Hell, I would like to lose 20 with a goal of 35lbs and am struggling. You've inspired me to wake up tomorrow and burn my ass cheeks off on my new Elliptical.

But what did he do. Wasn't apparent to me. Seemed like he was going pretty good at first....

So what happened to cause it?

Posted from iDevice.....feel free to move under college thread...

Sittling here drinking already and talking game with a huge group, we're putting up predictions. What are yours? Q1-Q2-Q3-Q4 - Final Ducks 14-7-14-10 = 39 Bucks 3-10-14-17 = 44

^^good to hear. Absolutely on snow tire front. I'll probably find a second set of Caddy wheels or something really sharp aftermarket for my summer tires and use the stock ones for winter rubber.

I am too. Not to mention all the knuckleheads in Chrysler 300's and what not do fine. I'm still considering it as the company will also be paying me $.57.5 mileage / going rate so even if I travel in crap weather to Michigan, I can rent a car and use the money from the mileage to cover the costs. Like Paul said too, we have the Suburban Assault Minivan too for weekend stuff. Good problems to have I suppose.

^^ I have a mustang as my rental car here in Dallas. had some fun with it tonight scaring my brother in law as we drifted some curves on the wet roads.

haha on the Lexus thing. I don't know why, but I kinda dig teh GS350. Nice inside for sure. haven't driven one just been in one as a passenger. I'll drive one just to compare though.