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the fusion hybrid doesn't even compete with the prius, you idiot! its designed to fight the camry hybrid, altima hybrid, and accord hybrid. the prius is designed to be a high MPG hybrid only, where as all of the other cars i mentioned are designed with multiple configurations in mind, as is the LS600 that the article mentions. also, the automakers aren't having any problems selling as many vehicles as the competition(i can get the numbers for you if you would like), they are having problems remaining profitable while doing so. ford is almost completely turned around(thus, why they wont need any gubment money unless one of the other 2 goes down), GM has some work to do, and chrysler is an honest question mark. im not sure who the hell got the idea that they aren't selling as many vehicles as the competition, but its terribly flawed and certainly not backed by any fact what so ever. BTW, for the second(or is it third?) time, both GM and chrysler have concluded that bankruptcy isn't feasible. http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090218/ANA02/902179935/1229

how the hell can you rate subway higher than quiznos??? quiznos actually puts MEAT on their subs!

CD3 is the mid-size mazda based platform. the taurus rides on the D3 full-size volvo based platform, which is also known for quality. (stealth edit)CD3 has been used for ford/lincoln/mazda vehicles since 2006(fusion/edge/et al). has been replaced in the 09 mazda6 with the CD3 2, which will lead a short life, being replaced by volvos EUCD platform(underpins all new volvos).

fuck subway, jersey mike's and quiznos(as well as many others) dominates their ass.

oh, look at that, bitch moan bitch moan!

i couldn't make last year, but i will DEFINATLY be going this year! BTW, do we have any HURT fans here??? ive been waiting forever to see them! such an awesome band, they really dont get any of the attention that they deserve!!! really, consider the price to see maybe a concert with 3 major bands. this is a steal for all the names that will be there! same with last year!

mondeo-based fusion, euro focus, kuga-based escape, fiesta, new taurus, possibly the ka, + atleast 3 other euro based fords, all by 2011(2012MY). ford wont have any problem in the realm of mainstream vehicles.

lame. shoulda put a turbo 460 in there!

and a great color combo at that!

again, glad to see your in the minority!

seems like i remember everyone saying that about the ford GT. seems like they were selling for $50k-$150k over MSRP the first year too. but, let me guess "well thats different"? seems like i remember that being said about the GT500KR too. and the 2000 cobra R also. dont forget about those king ranch superdutys.

i concur. lets end this lame trend.

"OMG BURN!" sorry, going to college. i'll happily buy one after i graduate though.

and like i said, im glad you guys are in the minority. everyone else is raving about this car.

im glad you guys are in the minority. nope, they are the 6 or accord with performance. BTW, what about acura and lexus? when they were introduced what were they? they were just "expensive toyotas" or "expensive honduhs", nope they are seen as respectable luxury competitors. lexus is even hanging with BMWs M3 in the luxury performance segment with its IS-F. but, according to you? they shouldn't even exist. they shouldn't even have tried. because no one would ever buy them.

look around, ford isn't the only company with cars in this price range. hell, even a mazda6 goes all the way up to $35k, and its a mid-size. the honduh accord does too. i could go on, but this pricing isn't as crazy as your making it sound. there will be a non-SHO taurus in the lower price range.

look around, compacts get into the 20s with options. hell, you can option up a fucking ford ranger into the 20s. the fusion hybrid will be low 30s. considering all of the standard equipment in the SHO, the price is about right. i would love a $15k 500HP 6 wheel drive all leather SHO just as much as the next guy, but thats not quite realistic either.

DO WANT!!! not even sure where you would begin to get parts for that thing though.

the 18.8 was the most recent i could find, so who knows. or the credit line ford is using isn't just for an "in case" situation? im pretty sure they dont plan on operating off of it for the next 10 years, rather keeping it available "in case" auto sales dont pick up this year. im talking about the future plans he's laid out for ford, not the cash/credit things taking place over the past few years that you keep talking about. the way it stands, ford has all bases covered for the future, far and near, pending any major disasters in the auto industry(sales staying in the slump or dropping lower for the next year or 2, an automaker crashing, etc.).

$3k in labor maybe? not tryin to justify it, just sayin, lol. either way, i have proof all around me each day that people are stupid!

someone else already pointed it out, the car is AWD!!! and the 'ecoboost' engines were developed for good power with good fuel economy. with direct injection, these engines will get great mileage while still having 350HP.

you would have a point if they were in fact using any of said bank money. ford has $18.9B on hand and have been operating off of on hand cash. this cash is rumored to last around a year and a half if the automotive sales climate doesn't change(which "analysts" have recently been saying should recover this summer). and, what they did(by going to the banks) is no different than you and me walking into a bank and asking for a loan. they put together a plan that was similar to what they sent to congress and asked the banks for some cash. i'll say it again: ford has been operating on on-hand cash. quit getting your "facts" from CNN, and do some real research on what these companies are really doing. mulally knows his shit, and has turned around ford in no time at all. ford will have 9 to 12 european cars here in the states within the next 3 years. this includes the focus, fiesta, mondeo(under the fusion badge, the platforms will be merged), kuga(under the escape badge, merged platforms), and others.

what if the deer hit me?

you would have a legitimate 'zing' if ford had taken a bailout. newsflash: they havn't.

it sure is a good thing that you jackasses aren't running these companies.