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A mk5 GTI should be able to be had to around that money. Probably a bit higher mileage but should be a way better car than a neon or cobalt, etc.

Just an idea.

Ive talked to Specialty Gas House several times about having a gas line ran. (havent actually done it yet) but they seem to know what they are doing and prices seem reasonable. They get very good reviews on Angies List as well. Might be worth a call.

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Roll racing at 70mph dont need big tires [emoji1]

well obviously. it was just something at noticed as he drove by.

My parents have rented a 160 gal stone lined since 1994 (same unit). AEP always sends out Waterworks to fix it. The Waterworks folks always tell them that it isn't really worth it to change it out till it dies, because it will cost $750+ to remove it + the cost to install a new one. Once it dies AEP will pay to remove it. They also get big discounts on their electric for renting it because of the switches that AEP has on it and they end up with a positive credit every month.

Interesting. I assume they rented it through AEP though? Mine is leased through AWHR. Assuming I want to cancel the lease (which I can do at anytime) they would be responsible for removing the unit. I shouldn't have any cost associated with doing so. Unless someone knows otherwise.

But yeah if there was any type of incentive for me to keep it I would do so. At this point Im assuming its just sucking down electricity for heating water that Im not using.

Not sure from your post, but if the water heater is electric, I would go with one of these... http://www.lowes.com/pd_386797-83-GEH50DEEDSR_0__?productId=3664968

 

I have one and it cut are electric bill measurably. Just two of us in the house and I run it heat pump only mode.

Thanks. Ill look into those more. It appears AEP offers a $500 rebate on them as well. Might be a no brainer.

Just wondering if anyone has any real input on these things efficiency?

Our house came with a leased Vaughn 120gal stone lined hot water heater.

There are only 2 of us in the house so it seems like way over kill.

Im paying $18/month to lease it currently. They mentioned I could purchase it but I dont know what the price is...yet

Im looking for ways to reduce our electric cost. We moved into a older ranch home (1960) which is exactly the same size as our older (2000 built) ranch. Our electric cost have been about 25% higher in the past couple billings than our old place.

There are a couple of items that I know contribute a little bit of it but it still seems higher than it should be.

A couple small additions are

-sump pump agitator

-small koi pond pump

-internal well pump that runs more than the old in ground.

The furnace is very similar along with the other normal appliances. The insulation in the ceiling is similar (which I plan to blow in more before winter) but I assume the walls maybe arent as well insulated. The windows are of very similar age.

I know there are a million other things contributing just wondering if buying a newer/smaller hot water heater would be worth investing in.

TIA

Derek

We rescued this little guy a couple weeks ago. Not even sure what he is. Calloway is his name.

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Krieger on morse.

Sucks X 10.

We have 2 guys here with Fords who've had misserable experiences with Kreiger.

One with an older Taurus with a throttle "sticking" issue. Huge safety concern that they played off, charged $400 to throw some parts at it. Which didn't fix the issue and to top it off didn't even drive the car. In/Out mileage was identical. Service Manager said the car was operating normally even though the car would continue to coast/accelerate when going down the highway with no throttle input. :dumb:

The other car is a newer 5.0 with a pinion seal leak. The first attempt failed with a seal that wasn't seat all the way in. The second attempt was just a attempt at re-sealing the 1st seal. This caused the leak to be worse than before any repair was made.

Im sure others have similar experiences.

I have both. I love the look of the glass tube. They are more expensive, but the only reason I think they don't put out the heat they are supposed to, is the metal deflector on the top is not large enough. I'm actually in the process of trying to create a larger deflector to push the heat down rather than letting it escape. The larger Mushroom style heater works fantastic but they get to look pretty ugly after a few uses and tip over easily in the wind. The triangular shaped glass tube style never tipped over, but needs more modest improvement in order to make them more efficient.

Do you know what brand/model glass tube style you have? And I thought the same thing about the small reflector on top.

I think all you need is typically 30" of clearance all around...so if you can get that you are good. If not you may look into the ceiling mounted or wall mounted versions...like in a restaurant patio for example. If it is open air, exhaust really isnt an issue. You are simply heating air, so it will immediately dissipate...which is why you only really feel warm when close to them.

 

Now, the grill...not smart at all to have under a porch...completely different animal. When you smoke the house out you will move it anyway.

Thanks for the tip. I assumed there was a typical distance recommendation. I think the height might be the only issue. But with a large reflector the distance above might be less of an issue. It would be easy to keep an eye on.

Moving into a new house next week and it has a nice covered patio on the back.

We are looking to have a natural gas line ran with quick disconnects to run a grille (probably MHP) and possibly an outdoor heater of some type.

I originally wanted a glass tube style heater as they look awesome but a nice one (lave heat) is about $1k and people complain they don't output what they advertise 40-50k BTU. So Im tempted to not go that route due to cost and not knowing whether they are worth a crap. There aren't even any dealers in Ohio.

So at this point I might just buy a mushroom/normal bar style cheap Chinese version for ~$200 and see how that goes.

Looks like a lot of them are similar and rebranded with different names.

Anyone have any experience with any of these?

My 2nd question is can I use it under a sloped metal roof with 2x4 wood rafters? The roof is about 9-10 feet sloping to 7-8ft towards the outside. I see most of these are about 6-1/2 feet tall. Is there a concern with heat above the reflector and or "exhaust" under the roof?

And yes I know the grill shouldn't be under the roof but Im not sure if these heaters have the same recommendation.

TIA

Derek

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