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Even if this was true, their logic fails. There is still a significant amount of money to be made on these rifles (even just for parts) and our government might as well get some of our tax money back by taking their cut. It would be a shame for these to be destroyed - which is the most likely scenario. SK will probably not be allowed to sell them to anyone else.

CMP brought in a bunch of the 30.06 AP earlier this year. They were selling it for CHEAP - $60 for a sealed SPAM can of 192 rounds!! It sold out in less than 2 days.

This certainly is NOT about stopping gun violence. Not even these folks could be that stupid. Could they?

The South Korean government, in an effort to raise money for its military, wants to sell nearly a million antique M1 rifles that were used by U.S. soldiers in the Korean War to gun collectors in America. The Obama administration approved the sale of the American-made rifles last year. But it reversed course and banned the sale in March – a decision that went largely unnoticed at the time but that is now sparking opposition from gun rights advocates. A State Department spokesman said the administration's decision was based on concerns that the guns could fall into the wrong hands. "The transfer of such a large number of weapons -- 87,310 M1 Garands and 770,160 M1 Carbines -- could potentially be exploited by individuals seeking firearms for illicit purposes," the spokesman told FoxNews.com. "We are working closely with our Korean allies and the U.S. Army in exploring alternative options to dispose of these firearms." Gun control advocates praised the Obama administration for taking security seriously. "Guns that can take high-capacity magazines are a threat to public safety," said Dennis Henigan of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "Even though they are old, these guns could deliver a great amount of firepower. So I think the Obama administration's concerns are well-taken." But gun rights advocates point out that possessing M1 rifles is legal in the United States -- M1s are semi-automatics, not machine guns, meaning the trigger has to be pulled every time a shot is fired -- and anyone who would buy a gun from South Korea would have to go through the standard background check. "Any guns that retail in the United States, of course, including these, can only be sold to someone who passes the National Instant Check System," said David Kopel, research director at the conservative Independence Institute. "There is no greater risk from these particular guns than there is from any other guns sold in the United States." M1 carbines can hold high-capacity ammunition clips that allow dozens of rounds to be fired before re-loading, but Chris Cox, chief lobbyist for the National Rifle Association, noted that is true about any gun in which an ammunition magazine can be inserted -- including most semi-automatics. "Anything that accepts an external magazine could accept a larger capacity magazine," Cox said. "But the average number of rounds fired in the commission of a crime is somewhere between 1 and 2 … this issue just shows how little the administration understands about guns." He called the administration's decision "a de facto gun ban, courtesy of Hillary Clinton's State Department." Asked why the M1s pose a threat, the State Department spokesman referred questions to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. ATF representatives said they would look into the question Monday afternoon, but on Wednesday they referred questions to the Justice Department. DOJ spokesman Dean Boyd referred questions back to the State Department. According to the ATF Guidebook on Firearms Importation, it would normally be legal to import the M1s because they are more than 50 years old, meaning they qualify as "curios or relics." But because the guns were given to South Korea by the U.S. government, they fall under a special category that requires permission from the State Department before any sale. Kopel said that he hopes the State Department spokesman's statement that it is working to "dispose" of the guns does not mean they want to melt them down. "It seems to have this implication of destruction, which would be tremendously wasteful," he said. "These are guns that should be in the hands of American citizens for marksmanship and safety training." Asked whether melting the guns down would be a good option, Henigan said: "Why let them into the country in the first place? If there is a legally sufficient way to keep them out, we think it's perfectly reasonable to do so." Past administrations have also grappled with the issue of large-scale gun imports. The Clinton administration blocked sales of M1s and other antiquated military weapons from the Philippines, Turkey and Pakistan. It also ended the practice of reselling used guns owned by federal agencies, ordering that they be melted down instead. In contrast, 200,000 M1 rifles from South Korea were allowed to be sold in the U.S. under the Reagan administration in 1987. A decision like that would be better for everyone, Cox said. "M1s are used for target practice. For history buffs, they're highly collectible. We're going to continue to make sure that this backdoor effort that infringes not only on lawful commerce but on the Second Amendment is rectified." Henigan disagrees. "They clearly were used as military guns, and the fact that they likely can take high-capacity magazines makes them a special safety concern," he said. The White House referred questions on the issue to the Pentagon, which referred questions to the U.S. Embassy in South Korea, which deferred back to the State Department.

What kind of vendors are there? Mostly commercial guns or military?

What is this event? A gun show?

TTT....expensive wheels for CHEAP!!

http://www.classicarms.us Southern Ohio Guns also has the Radway Green, but it's on strippers in bandoliers instead of linked.

Aim Surplus has a great price on Austrian (Hirtenberger) 7.62x51. REALLY good ammo! Also, Classic Arms has British Radway Green for about the same price (.43/round). For surplus military ammo, this stuff is very accurate out of my M1A.

I have one of these sights and it works great. This is not one of the cheapo Chinese Aimpoint knock-offs that won't hold zero!

Hopefully it's not one of the late war type 99 rifles. Have you shot it before? The early Type 99's are very strong, the late ones ("last ditch") rifles were dangerous to shoot because of poor metal and lack of heat treating. KABOOM! Here is a source for excellent ammo... http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=95766

Somebody must be able to use these... These wheels are LIGHT! Reduce your un-srpung mass and improve your acceleration, braking, and suspension response. http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/1996%20Ford%20Probe%20GT/sh_035_top.jpg

I think I'm going to put this rifle back in the safe until the firearms market rebounds... Thanks for the interest.

cash offers???

OK...that is uglier but it's not production. I guess I should have said production Porsche. I'm sure there are plenty of ugly concept cars out there. I really have to disagree with wnaplay. The 928 was a unique Porsche, but it's not ugly.

Maybe the ugliest Porsche ever created. Can anyone think of an uglier Porsche?

Probably a wise decision. Not really a great choice for a daily driver.

Neat cars, but "BIG Turbo" and "modded" would keep me away from it. Could be a real big money pit.

What kind of optic is that?

Thanks, but not interested in trades at this time.

I'll even throw in an extra Chinese 30 rounder for you as a thank you for your service. http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS%20M/P1016016.jpg

Both of these examples are very uncommon and in exceptionally nice condition. The Sporter is also known as the SKS M and is highly sought after because it is designed to take standard AK47 magazines. They didn't import many of these in 1992 before they were banned. I like it because it has a nicer trigger and a slightly longer buttstock than the miltary version. The shorter barrel is handy, too, and doesn't seem to affect accuracy when compared to the military version. A few months ago these SKS M rifles were selling for $500-$600 when you could find them and I'm sure they'll go up again once the economy gets going. Now is a great time to buy! The SKS56 has the two Chinese characters on the right side of the receiver that indicates this was a Public Security Force rifle. These are quite rare and are very collectible. The Public Security Force rifles were only made at 3 Chinese Arsenals - /026\, /016\, and [0141] and are of the highest quality. I showed this rifle to a Chinese national that I was training at work and you should have seen the look on his face! He couldn't believe that I had one of these! I guess the Chinese Public Security Force is sort of like the Chinese equivalent of the Nazi SS and are feared by the Chinese populous. I've shot both of these rifles and they are very accurate. Here is a good site with great details on SKS collecting... http://www.yooperj.com/SKS.htm

I need to make room in the safe and help fund the next resident so these two rifles need new homes. Both rifles are in excellent condition and shoot great. 1) SKS "Sporter" from 1992 - ***SOLD*** to your FFL. paratrooper length barrel, unique thumbhole stock (which I find more comfortable than the shorter military stocks), and a very nice trigger. It’s designed to accept AK47 magazines. Comes with the original sling and unused 5 round magazine. Rifle is in excellent condition and doesn't have many rounds through it. 2) Public Security Force SKS56 from arsenal /016\ - pulled from market to your FFL. This rifle also has the original sling and was imported by Kengs Firearm Specialties. I think I still have the original box for this one, but I need to check. This is a pinned barrel example with the side mount rear sling swivel and a milled trigger housing. It's is all matching except for the magazine, which is an excellent condition Chinese military replacement stamped with a different number. The original owner misplaced the magazine so I had to search for an appropriate replacement. It wasn't easy finding one that had an excellent finish to match the rest of the rifle! I accept USPS money orders or cash for FTF purchase (I'm in located in NW Ohio). Both rifles need to ship to an FFL01 or can be sold to residents of Ohio with proper ID for a FTF purchase. I have great feedback on many of the popular gun forums as well as Gunbroker and I know you'll be happy with either (or both!) of these fine rifles. PICTURES: http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS%20M/IMG_1891.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS%20M/IMG_1890.jpg 1) SOLD 2) http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1893.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1894.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1895.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1896.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1897.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1899.jpg http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k239/jjjxlr8/SKS56/IMG_1892.jpg

You shouldn't worry too much about using "corrosive" ammo. The corrosive surplus ammo that you find today is no different from any other ammo except that it uses potassium chlorate in the primer compound as an oxidizer. When the primer compound ignites, it forms a small amount of potassium chloride salt residue in your bore or gas system. Just like sodium chloride (table salt), Potassium chloride salts are hygroscopic which means they attract and retain water. This is why the corrosion process is enhanced slightly. The fact is, even non-corrosive ammo residue can retain moisture and cause corrosion, just not as readily. If you properly clean your firearms after each use, keep them oiled, and store them in a dry environment (60% or lower humidity) you won't have any problems with corrosion. Happy shooting!

+1 Yugo SKS59/66 are about the cheapest SKS type rifles available today at the retail level. You might try Gunbroker as lately there have been some very good deals on Chinese SKS56 rifles, which are generally much nicer than the Yugos. Yugoslavian SKS59/66 rifles did not have chrome lined bores, and with the grenade launcher system, corrosion can be a problem. The Chinese SKS56 rifles all have chrome lined bores and it's not uncommon to find examples that are unfired, new in the box. Chinese SKS56 rifles are also a better investment in the long term since they were banned from importation back in the 90's. Yugos are still being imported today.