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That's a wild and wicked weekend for me, no car stuff those days! Have a great trip, extend that car stuff season as far as you can!

RWD Twin Turbo V6 paddle shifted for under $40k? Personally I absolutely love this car, have since it's rumors started actually panning out. Seeing how far the Optima has come in quality over the last 6-8 years is incredible. If I didn't have to look at the damn KIA logo on the steering wheel I wouldn't think twice! Love the idea of the car, unfortunately (fortunately?) I've no need for one personally but I think it's a hell of a leap for a manufacturer trying to move up market and build something with "spirit" for a change not just a commuter. For me, kind of goes the way of the Chevy SS.. love the car, love what it's capable of, love what it COULD be.. totally unsure who they are going to sell this to. Hopefully up and coming middleclassers who aren't badge obsessed.

122s Volvo? 102 inch wheel base.. plenty of room in the cabin..

The beauty of car shows is you can plan for everything, and still have a nightmare pop up so all told I would give you and your team a solid 98%. The skies stayed great, the wind is something that's completely unpredictable. Nothing to be done and only minor casualties. Even when we were unloading our cars and moving over to the vendor areas one of your folk came up and said, "Sir all of the car show cars need to be in this area, that is for vendors only" until I explained we WERE a vendor. Not many highschool age kids these days would have the gumption to walk up to an adult (me) and challenge what I'm doing. So kudos for that. The buffalo chicken sliders were quite tasty as were the chips, and very reasonably placed at $3, then $1 for a drink. I can certainly handle $4 for a decent lunch at a show versus what most of us are used to! Really liked the idea of the QR codes on the check in sheets, makes it very technologically relevant and I imagine a whole lot easier on tallying scores. Interested to know how much interaction the fan favorite category got, not many people I know have any idea how to use a QR code even though its pretty damn simple. I actually really like your show being this late in the year also, kind of a end of the Car Show Season event. There was a classic show at Byers that likely drew a few cars away but largely that was a VERY solid turn out.

I wonder how that trip to the Icecream Shop goes?

Finishing loading up and heading your way

'65 is ready to go, '70 is on the rack getting a lil lovin, '41 is ready to go. We'll see y'all in the mornin'!

Excellent use of knowledge and research to make a quality reply, enjoy that much more than monkeys throwing poo

If it's on the road, I prefer to get beaten by something cool. Something that looks and sounds as good as it goes. On the track, I'll take my whuppins from anyone and everyone. This most recent track day I would be willing to bet I had the slowest set of times of anyone who made it out, but you can still enjoy the ride and fun. Now I DO get annoyed losing to a fully race prepped track car that's essentially a motor with a body around it... though that could be largely because I don't have one of those of my own for a "fair fight"

Thanks for the link, hadn't read that article but goes straight to the heart of the conversation I was hoping to start. The EV-lution is coming, the sliding time table of when is getting closer and closer pretty much no matter who you ask. Those countries that are already in the red and we are at "Barely any EVs on the road" level, what happens when instead of demand for their product recovering it continues to slip further and further? Your problems come faster than expected, not slower. What happens if that world altering battery tech happens in as the article states... the next 5 years? You have countries like Yemen, and Libya which are already in a state of civil war. Iraq which is hanging on be a thread and with the new Kurdish independence push possibly on the very near horizon...all while STILL dealing with the ISIS issues. Iran is on that list, still tugging back and forth between their old style theocratic world and the new modern technological one much of the youth would like to be involved in. Also their Kurdish minority population is looking at their Iraqi brethren with eager eyes. Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Oman... all countries that essentially can not EXIST without the oil trade being their life blood.

They functioned quite well for a number of years under socialism, even becoming a production hub for American manufacturing for South America. Socialism was an issue yes, and they spent piles of Oil Riches like the oblivious pseudo-dictators they wanted to be but the wheels continued to roll... until bad decisions, poor management, and a few other things were kicked over the cliff by the loss of Oil Rev. http://www.opec.org/opec_web/en/about_us/171.htm Also, for reference https://www.forbes.com/places/saudi-arabia/

Currently, no they can't. You would be eating up battery charge at a rapid rate and creating an immense amount of heat. BUT, what about when you get up to cruising speed and the amount of thrust needed diminishes massively? You get into highway gear and Hybrid tech kicks in to keep things rolling. MPG climbs by 30-40% and keep on truckin. Also, keep in mind the big boys are already looking at EV powered Semi trucks, most of those are for short haul and around the city type trips, but the hardware is coming along quickly and could easily trickle down into the pickup size.

Having the blessing of that year to reconnect and make good memories is something to absolutely be grateful for, especially for the kids. Sorry for your loss but hold onto those experiences

While yes I agree there are many other applications for crude oil the impact of pulling the internal combustion engine's ever thirsty appetite from the market will be a HUGE change to the industry. Those yuge container ships filled to the brim with crude are largely going to refineries where it's broken down into fuel, not turned into Tupperware containers. The plastics world is also always looking for alternative materials to create their products with, so don't count even that as a long term use. As for the "We have a long time, don't worry yourselves" argument, yes this will not happen over night. This will not happen next year. But with companies like GM, Tesla, and others getting these cars into the mainstream it will a rising tide much faster than most people think. Look at the past 10 years, how far have we come? You saw essentially 0 electric or even hybrid cars on the road now you likely can't drive more than a 15 minute drive to work without passing at least a few. Some of them you may never even know, those sneaky hybrid techs are hiding under the hoods of many "normal" cars. Where one we had 1 or 2 people looking into battery tech now everyone from car companies, to cellphone manufactures, to aviation, to the military are looking for better lighter more efficient faster charging power storage options. With so many players in the R&D side of things the competition is fierce and you can almost bet within just a handful of years there will be SOME major tech leap in this field. Now, will all dino juice cars disappear overnight? No absolutely not. Are there people driving around on 10-15-20 year old cars today because they either can't afford to buy new, or choose to have an older ride? Absolutely. Will parts continue to exist for those types of cars? Absolutely. BUT, if you have the option of driving your 10 year old Chevy Whatever that you spend X amount to put fuel into, and Y amount to repair/maintain at what point does a Hybrid/EV that gets 400 miles per charge (at very little cost) become the better route? With fewer failure/wear items in their cars your cost to keep plummets. We also need to honestly talk about subsidies, those can give a POWERFUL motivation to change this industry in a hurry. How many people would be buying Civics at $199 per month that still require $100-$150 in gas per month when you can buy an EV for $250-$300 per month and never have to see a gas station again? Never have to pay for an oil change again? Will classics still be able to run up and down the road making 'Merica sounds? Likely yes, we won't be taking away your right to make rumble. Will they become more and more of a "luxury" item? Very likely. Will they continue to demand the prices they do now? Time will tell.

Something I have kicked around for years and has become more and more of a worry as we look to the future, what are the potential social explosions with removing ourselves from the oil addiction? Ever since oil was discovered in the Middle East their civilizations have grown and flourished in otherwise what is near as makes no difference "inhospitable" lands. Incredible temps, little fresh water, sandy wastes, very little (if any) arable land, and few other marketable natural resourses. Oil is the reason for their cities and structures to be where they are. High prices paid those costs, put cash in the coffers, and afforded near limitless development. Once those prices began to tumble we see ... Venezuela which was once riding high on oil revenues now in a completely failed state, civilization has ground to a halt. The average citizen has lost 19lbs, food and medical supplies are almost impossible to find, even TOILET PAPER almost non-existent. The government is essentially broke, inflation is completely out of control, personal and business assets are being seized daily by the dictatorship as it tries to stick a finger in the dam hole. Tens of thousands of people are fleeing to neighboring countries to try and survive... and this is in an area that can grow crops, gets rain, and humans are capable of living outside. Civil war or at the very least some sort of revolution isn't far for that country. But what happens when this same problem hits the Middle East? With an entire region which is already a tinder box for so many other issues, what happens when we take away 90% of their state income? What happens when over a 10-20 year period the building blocks on which their entire civilization is built disappears? Few of their countries have production industry, few have much of any farming land, even fewer have reliable sources of fresh drinking water. Going back the Bedouin society they once were pre oil isn't an option, so what happens? Just something that's rolled around in my brain for quite some time and I figured I would toss it out to all the brains of CR to kick around. Thoughts? Comments? Predictions?

Manually kick it out of O/D high gear see if the sound changes at the same speed? Drive down the road with your phone out the window to record the sound for us?

Excuse me sir, did you deploy your "air brakes" at the end there?

This I think is probably the biggest sticking point with those of us considered "enthusiasts", there's so much loss of the tactile driving experience in an EV. No rumble, shake, rattle, growl... all those things we associate with big thumping V8s that have powered the 'Merican hotrodder/racer since ... well since the beginning of hotrodding. Do EVs make great commuter cars? Absolutely. Because that is typically an A-B experience where you want to get there as efficiently and drama free as possible. However when I get in and turn the key in a "classic" the drive is the experience, as much or more so than the destination.

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Just drove by their otw up to Plain City, there's still a trailer buried in the building and police on scene.

Bringing a truck and a car both firmly in the "Project Car" class!

Yeah, glad we made it up and had some fun, unfortunately traction was an issue most definitely in the 70. Both cars are on Cooper Cobra Radials and could NOT hook out of the hole. Green car did "alright" but with just coming out of paint the day before didn't have any time to really iron out any bugs before tossing it down the lanes. The yellow 70 was having terrible traction issues, even leaving off idle it just wasn't there. Totally understand the desire to protect the surface for the dragsters and such, but giving those of us on street tires some type of chance WOULD have been nice. All in all, had a good time. Nice to get one more day out at the track and very proud of how CR showed up. With 60+ cars actually there, definitely can call that a success. Might need to travel up with a set of slicks in the truck bed next time though Tried 1 launch at around 1200 RPM, spun all the way through first most of the way through second.. :*( https://imgur.com/a/UpD5e

Of those who ran on non-drag tires did you have traction issues? I could get the '71 to hook up but the '70 was just a smoke fest. Even coming out of the hole essentially on idle then rolling into it even torque out of healthy 455 broke them loose until probably the 600 foot mark. Interesting facility though, used to race there back in highschool and WOW is it different. From what I have heard they are still only using half the track? Almost no seating added to the place yet, so not sure if there's another "phase" coming or what but hoping for big things going into next year. Would be nice to have another quality track in the area.

Very good time out for sure. Weather pretty much stayed away too, ended up bein a pretty gorgeous day. Final count was pretty impressive so good job to everyone who attended! Final tally was over 60, the yellow 70 was 61 by the time it got into the lanes. Kudos to all of you who set new personal bests as well!