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Yup. Except in some situations you don't have time to pull your weapon...hence over simplified.

No willfully ignored it.

They can't handle it, it's too personal to go hand-to-hand. They prefer stay at a distance so they can pretend they are playing Call of Duty.

Heh 2 miles. YOU people and your overkill. We'll never be true ninja in your eyes no matter how hard we try.

Most of that is 'uh yeah duh', up until the "should be shooting" part. That's a bit oversimplified.

I actually wish they would make it so you can carry concealed in bars that allow it. I think it should be (as long as you aren't drinking) you should be able to carry in any establish were the owner (or agent) of the establishment allows it. Period.

I'm a ninja after all. Not a ninja edit BTW, just unintentionally hit 'Submit Reply' while clicking around.

No I'm a ninja, get it straight.

I like the assumption that I haven't, no one in a body bag though. The point is to disable not kill 99.999999% of the time. Unless you've had shitty training of course.

Groups like BFA and the rest need to take a politically neutral stance while lobbying for gun rights and education at the same time. You're not going to get as much support for the left or even moderate gun supporters if there are signs every where decrying 'liberal gun grabbers'.

How about neither? Really a lot of people aren't going to hit the criminal to begin with. They will draw fire, kill their own child and sue the state. OK so may be a little extreme of an example, but I personally don't want morons operating weapons. Those are the types of people that have "accidents". There is more instruction in the MSF course then there is for getting a CHL. Hell it's harder to get a drivers license than to get a CHL in this state. I'm afraid these people are going to kill me just driving to work, I'm not sure I want those same idiots with a gun in their car.

My first thought as well. I wish more people would open carry.

No they just swing like girls. Pussies.

Nothing like firing bullets into a group of people... it's just awesome. Only a f-ing retard thinks that disarming hand-to-hand is your only option in a situation like this.

Yeah go hang out with all those others in ranges, and sit/visit a couple of classes and range sessions with people going through their courses, most are down right frightening that I've seen. Even my wife after we got through with our course thought it was nuts that most of the people there would be carrying. My Dad's was the same way when I went and visited his to shoot with him after they were done at another place. Maybe at first CHL carriers were like you, I and a good number of people on here. In general though it looks like more and more are just regular people, some of which haven't even owned a weapon before taking their 12 hours and going through the joke it takes to qualify shooting.

No you typed it right the first time. Most gun advocates don't think EVERYONE should have the right to own/carry a weapon... mentally challenged (more so than us that is), violent felons, cosplayers,... Fair enough. Leave it to the states to decide this level of firearm permission. It's where it belongs. You've never seen Kung Fu Panda have you? EVERYONE should have to be trained in Shaolin Kung Fu, it'll be just like mandatory military service in Switzerland and Israel.

How many ranges have you been to? Did you take your CCW course with a group of friends or with a group of everyday fine citizens?

OK guns laws are easing and not increasing. Like you said most gun owners agree not EVERY person should be carrying a gun. So how do you manage that? And don't bring the 2nd into this. Activist judges even agree conceal and everyday carry isn't covered by it. Just the ownership in your home. That's why those things are managed at the state level. So you're basically saying what I said. Some not all, some not all. Applies to both sides. Now you need to find compromise. I think all guns are bad and should be banned. Everyone should also be forced to learn Shaolin Kung Fu, have to battle their disagreements on a raised platform surrounded by spikes and aired on PPV.

I did, but in my head using means the attacker is unconscious, disabled or dead, not being held off so the "rescuers" are injured also. Idiots. Pussies couldn't even swing a pool stick hard enough to disable one guy.

A you're cute to think I would want someone with who doesn't know what they're doing to have my back. Last thing I need is to have to protect you while dealing with the attacker. Most people don't go through the effort of training. Having to work at something is hard and all that...but, yeah so carry a gun right?

That's probably a valid point.

Way to cut and run...

One in each hand, twin GLOCK fortiez...

Uh ok, yeah.