its a good thing this is the internet, otherwise my panties might get in a bunch on a sidenote, what do you mean by slowing down the group? liter bike or 250, new riders like myself will always slow down the group because a good bike ride will wait for everyone to catch up after the group gets stretched out. i guess ill have to ride with shitty and satan at my own pace. i wouldnt mind going for a ride if theres gonna be someone to wait up for me. consider this a personal call out to shitty: i bet i can ride slower than you!