The taxes they pay in what goods they do buy doesn't mitigate the negative impact on the economy they impart. Services that benefit from the scant tax dollars collected from goods bought by illegals wouldn't receive any significant negative imapct if that section of the revenue stream dried up. As far as competition in the workplace, more than just high school dropouts are competing for jobs with illegals. You talk of my stereotype, your comments reflect the same thing. In my personal case, sure..I'm not competing with an illegal to maintain my position as a client admin for my company. However, I see pleny of "contracted" labor come through our community done by illegals when pulling wire, punching down phone nets, etc. And while it appears menial from the outsiders persepctive, those are jobs that some college educated workers would take in this economy to get their foot in the door at a tech company, not unlike apprentice work in the unionized sector. And for the ones that are paying payroll taxes, as you stated, they are doing so with stolen SSNs or identities. Where I come from, we call that a double whammy, as not only have you taken a job that an otherwise honest, tax paying American citizen would have, they are perpetuating identiy theft. Now you have another set of victims to the scenario. At the end of the day, they are still only paying at best a minimum into the system, as to do anything higher profile only runs them the risk of getting caught more easily. Anything they can do to reduce that chance, they will.