natedogg624

i would but i need to study and write, if it was just book stuff id be in but i need to write 2 papers... if we do a hocking run in the summer time im all in!

and when the fawk did you go to canada playerpro?!?

yea they do for a while now i read.

so the 190 thing is only for race app on the more powerful bikes then.

if i ever did want to switch in the future though what adjustments would i need to make though?

here you go guys this is from Todd at Cal-Sportbike.com

my question in bold and his response:

whats the difference between galfer and ebc HH pads?

EBC pads have stronger initial bite since their higher copper content means they build heat faster. But according to THEIR OWN marketing ads, their peak

friction rating is .6u. Galfer is .7u, or roughly 15% higher peak friction, which means stopping power. However, Galfer uses higher ceramic content in

their sintered mix, meaning the pads cool faster thus they put less thermal demand on the rotors, so they're more "rotor friendly" than EBC pads. Also,

a difference in feel comes because ceramic builds heat in a more linear fashion, so some people THINK EBC pads are better, but it's a difference in

FEEL (only initial bite) not in peak performance. Like having a car geared strong in 1st and 2nd but gets beat in the 1/4 mile, ya know?

am i correct in saying that rotors and pads have to be made by the same company? For instance you can't get ebc pads with galfer rotors or

vice versa yes?

It's a very good idea to use rotors and pads from the same company in many cases, mostly because they only warranty their components to work together.

Makes sense, because they would use THEIR pads to test on their rotors, so Galfer, EBC, Ferodo, and others, tend to not want to warranty rotors if you

use someone else's pads. And quite right IMO.

one more question: can you compare the different series of galfer HH pads. I know we had discussed this as well between the 1396 series and the 1375 series and whatever other HH line they have.

The one numbers that matter for you is 1375 versus 1370. 1396 is for offroad applications basically. So the 1370 and 1375 are both bronze-based ceramic compound. However the 1375 also adds a ceramic coated backing plate, which is a heat barrier to lessen thermal bleed through to the caliper pistons and thus the fluid. Any time you lower the temp of your fluid, the more you stay away from the dreaded boiling point which causes total fluid degradation. So this is why the 1375 compound is more expensive, but is much more popular for track riders and serious sport riders who understand the facts about braking performance.

Now, to help you understand that I'm not just cheerleading Galfer and ignoring anything else...understand that I don't always run Galfer pads on

MY OWN bikes. In fact, my Ducati 888SPO has Ferodo XRAC pads on BrakeTech Axis ductile iron rotors, which is a step UP from the Galfer setup. But the iron rotors can stand up to the higher thermal demand of the XRAC pads.

And on my track bike, with a Brembo setup and 19x18 radial master cylinder, I really loved the Galfer 1375HH pads since they complemented the way the radial master applies a lot of force quickly. I actually tried Vesrah pads (sort of between Ferodo and Galfer in friction) and they were too abrupt, so I wanted a more linear feel for predictability in all conditions.

so its not a straight swap then? well alright then i guess i wont mess with that and stick with stock settings.

just like the title says. would also consider Pilot Power series.

edit: ok just the 180 series tire. 190 ain't for me...

NEW condition only please.

PM me with a price or post in the thread doesn't matter.

prefer columbus or dayton area members for a pick up also would consider a shipment from farther away if the price is right

close/lock/delete thread please

yea i believe galfer 1375 series stays strong all the way to the end. i just emailed the guy who told me all this and should get a response by tomorrow.

but its only the 1375 series so make sure if you do decide to buy galfer that you dont mix up 1396 and 1375 from what i was told it is a large difference (again not sure if its noticeable to the layman or not)

i was reading the wera boards and came up on a thread talking about running 190's on the R6.

my stock tire is 180/55/17. would it be ok to switch to a 190 as long as its still designed for the 5.5" wheel?

for those that have switched what are some pros/cons of switching? it wasn't too clear on the benefits of it only that it was "different" but not defining it as a good or bad different...

also for anyone selling a NEW pilot power 2ct 180/55 or 190/55 (depending on how this thread turns out) PM me please.

well i think that it depends on what pads you use. if you are choosing ebc pads then you need(?) to get ebc rotors and vice versa with galfer.

i chose the galfer because the guy i bought them from had some very very good information selling me on the fact of galfer over ebc. i told him i wanted good strong bite, and he said both HH series' are good for that but the galfer holds the initial bite longer than the ebc.

if you were to put the amount of friction on a graph the galfer would be a straight line horizontal whereas the ebc friction line would be a negative sloping line.

ill try and get some information to back that up tomorrow for you it really doesn't make much of a difference on what pads you use for your application im sure to the common layman that they are both the same. All i know to be true is you need to match pads to rotors.

lines doesn't matter at all in your case.

god i love brakes

there is nothing better than the feel of solid stopping power.

you better do some more research on the pilot powers. the centers on the pilot power and 2ct are the same, but the 2ct has softer sides. There is a pilot road that is a dual compound that may be more to your liking.

hmm thanks for that info i still got some time before the paychecks come in so i will for sure look into that and what my options are.

Im getting ready to change out my rear tire this summer. Bought pilot powers for my bike and got around 5-6k miles out of them and now im noticing the rear tread is getting a little low. sad thing is i just bought them in august. But it is the only form of transportation that i have...

im most likely going to get a PP 2CT rear this time around (dual compound, medium center, soft sides as opposed to soft all around w/ pilot powers) and then come time to replace both of them i was going to give M3's a shot.

that has happened to me a few times back in my home town. Usually when they rev their engine and all that jazz ill say lets go and when it turns green i will go full tuck and just stay right by their side the whole time (thats hard work lemme tell ya to try and forcefully go slow...whew!). when we pull up at the next light ill say "man that thing is fast..." very sarcastically and then i blow him away at the next light.

we better be able to get some better group rides together when i get back from campus people!

ninja nick i know you have some good roads (as good as they can be) in this area in your book of secrets... care to show me (and others that want to join) around sometime

deal?

psh i wont crash!

im just kidding i know its bound to happen eventually which is the reason i have this old 99 r6 and its only spray painted...

which yamaha board?

i just posted a link to this site on r6central to try and let more people know about this.

i like the ones who have the helmets locked into the sides of their bikes while they ride

at a dealership down in kentucky, my dad and i were on a roadtrip and decided to take a break and look around.

When i was bike shopping a few years ago i saw a guy buy a brand new gixxer 750. as soon as he rolled it out of the door, no joke, had two of his friends hold the bike upright while he stood up on the tank and jumped on it to make it flatter for a "seat"

lamest thing i've ever seen.

yup all done and working order, pull the old shift shaft out new one goes in put gasket on change the detent spring for ol times sack and its all good

feels as good as new.

what a beautiful day for this. couldn't have asked for better weather.

i loved how many bikes showed up to support him

nicely down fellas.

who cares yamaha is on top of their game in motogp

where is honda at? o yes you've got a tiny wee man riding for you. and our rookie with 2 broken ankles a weak wrist still beat you...

rossi will get away with anything and he probably gets more italian ass in a weekend than any guy on this board would ever get in their lifetime:banana:

tomcat and i are going to be getting to the funeral home around 9

that good?