Tonik Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Can't believe these two consented to a search. Can't believe this is what our country has come to either. http://reason.com/blog/2013/08/01/innocent-couple-gets-visited-by-feds-aft And again I restate: Obama, the Dems and the Repubs and everyone that voted for them can kindly go shoot themselves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 We no longer have a functioning democracy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medina Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 I guess once the cat was out of the bag about prism, NSA etc, f'it, they went full Orwellian on us.I'd like to donkey punch an obama voter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 But he's gonna take care of the poor people, so it's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 You peeps focusing on Obama need to remember that section 215 was passed in a repub controlled house. Until you do and hold them just as accountable you are part of the problem. I would argue more so than the politicians. You keep reelecting them. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Connie14 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 Did you hear that? It is our founding fathers rolling in their grave. As stated above, it is a major problem with both major parties. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? That was so 200 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baptizo Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 We no longer have a functioning democracy. We're a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. If we were, the minority voice wouldn't be allowed and the majority would rule us - otherwise known as elected despotism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted August 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) We're a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy. If we were, the minority voice wouldn't be allowed and the majority would rule us - otherwise known as elected despotism.I would argue that we are supposed to be a constitutional republic...that was the intent of our founding fathers...but that we are far from it now. Not sure what to call it...other than messed up.The cornerstone of a constitutional republic is that you are ruled by law. Law that empowers people and specifically limits the power of the government. The topic of this thread is proof that isn't happening. Edited August 1, 2013 by Tonik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) no one complained about the patriot act when it was 911 time. so STFU now that the ramifications are coming to real life as they excersise their freedom stripping powers on you. you gave your rights up for a bit of security and some of you I recall defended it tooth and nail. recall anyone ever saying "its ok with me, If youre not doing something illegal you have nothing to worry about"? Edited August 1, 2013 by serpentracer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Um, fuck you very much. I have bitched about Patriot since it hit my radar.This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) We only have the choice between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. We have federal leaders that rather than listen to citizens they impose their will on citizens. We have a federal government that has more power than was intended by the founding fathers and a people without leaders that ACTUALLY represent them. This is how it should be:This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or exercise their revolutionary right to overthrow it. -- Abraham Lincoln Edited August 2, 2013 by Tpoppa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jporter12 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I guess once the cat was out of the bag about prism, NSA etc, f'it, they went full Orwellian on us.I'd like to donkey punch an obama voter Magz? Oh wait, he'll stop you with his lethal elbows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentracer Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Um, fuck you very much. I have bitched about Patriot since it hit my radar.I didn't mean anyone in this thread. anyone that reads it will know who they are. they'll probably still come up with some kind of off the wall defense of it though Edited August 2, 2013 by serpentracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Magz? Oh wait, he'll stop you with his lethal elbows! He's a liberal-tarian. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIJI-9-Brother Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 democrat/republic, different friggin mask on the same face 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aforrest4 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Sounds like they still don't know what caused the search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubbersidedown Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Google continues to roll over when ever ask for information/access from the gov't. They did it a couple of years ago and apparently they continue to lay there like a young puppy. Yet as a society we continue to get deeper and deeper in bed with thier products- Gmail, Chrome, Gmaps...Personally I try to avoid thier products and like that another browser is suggested inthe article.What was the search engine that stood up to the gov't last year when asked for the search DB with out a warrant? Maybe I should google that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiomike Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Um, fuck you very much. I have bitched about Patriot since it hit my radar.Me too. The whole thing is a clusterfook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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