Nevada Rancher News

[just_some_dude]

Didn't see anything posted about this, so...

 

http://beforeitsnews.com/agenda-21/2014/04/calling-all-militias-to-nevada-in-support-of-cliven-bundy-john-moore-530.html

... militias all across the region need to mobilize in the Bunkerville area, walk down together to the FED's encampment and DEMAND that they leave the area immediately.

http://www.infowars.com/blm-action-in-nevada-is-unconstitutional-heres-why/

“The U.S. government is rounding up Bundy’s cattle that it says have been grazing illegally on public lands in Clark County for more than 20 years, according to the land-management bureau and the National Park Service,” CNN reports today.

http://www.infowars.com/blm-feds-assault-more-protesters-as-first-amendment-area-taken-down/

“No warning at all, and I was not being aggressive physically in any way,” said Schillig, adding that he was detained for 2 hours before being charged with interfering with an agency function and disorderly conduct and violent behavior.

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The incident followed a confrontation between protesters and BLM officials the day before during which Bureau of Land Management agents assaulted a cancer victim, set a dog on a pregnant woman and tasered Ammon Bundy.

 

 

[Strictly Street]

This is warming up. BLM has temporarily backed down.

Snipers for COW control is a little over the top.

Accusations of the BLM killing the cows to teach the old man a lesson are out there too.

Over 200 'troops', helicopters, armored vehicles, snipers vs an old man and some cows.

 

Just starting to get picked up in the lamestream media

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/us/nevada-rancher-rangers-cattle-showdown/

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/07/nevada-officials-blast-feds-over-treatment-cattle-rancher-cliven-bundy/

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2014/0410/Nevada-cattle-wars-Nevada-senator-sides-with-rancher-against-feds

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/11/militias-head-nevada-ranchers-standoff-feds-were-n/

 

Now international

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2602431/Nevada-ranchers-cowboys-break-federal-blockade-round-30-head-cattle-land-dispute-row-intensifies.html

Edited April 11, 2014 by Strictly Street

[Strictly Street]

In the latest twist on this. It looks like the Chinese are in on it with the help of Harry Reid.

 

The Bureau of Land Management, whose director was Sen. Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) former senior adviser, has purged documents from its web site stating that the agency wants Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle off of the land his family has worked for over 140 years in order to make way for solar panel power stations.

 

Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.”

 

“Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle,” the document states.

 

Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid’s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

 

And journalist Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal as well.

 

“[Reid] and his oldest son, Rory, are both involved in an effort by a Chinese energy giant, ENN Energy Group, to build a $5 billion solar farm and panel manufacturing plant in the southern Nevada desert,” he wrote. “Reid has been one of the project’s most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada.”

 

“His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre (3,600-hectare) desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.”

 

Although these reports are in plain view, the mainstream media has so far ignored this link.

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-sen-harry-reid-behind-blm-land-grab-of-bundy-ranch/

 

You just can't make this stuff up.

[Gump]

Wow, but never surprising. Writing him letter.

REID has a FB

[Bakemono]

This is a pretty crazy story.  My favorite part is that the guy doesnt think he should have to pay the grazing fees because his Morman ancestors have worked the land for over 150 years. LOL  I tend to be highly suspicious about anything that Faux News reports though and cant help but wonder whats real and what made-up news thats all too common these days.

Edited April 12, 2014 by Bakemono

[Steve Butters]

This is a pretty crazy story. My favorite part is that the guy doesnt think he should have to pay the grazing fees because his Morman ancestors have worked the land for over 150 years. LOL I tend to be highly suspicious about anything that Faux News reports though and cant help but wonder whats real and what made-up news thats all too common these days.

He says he shouldn't have to pay them to blm because they don't own the land any more than he does and he was there before them. He already said he would be willing to pay them to the state of Nevada Clark County who actually own the land.. He isn't against paying them, he's against paying them to the crooked fed

Suggesting it's a fake story shows you know nothing about the situation, regardless of which source it's posted from ... Seems to be a theme around here watching your posts... CNN is reporting the same story, Washington times.. There are political figures who are traveling there and will be there in person. Mobilized militia groups have clearly stated they are on site (check some of their independent pages)....

Damn faux news and their made up stories

Here you go, little background (I didn't write this) :

Those who say Bundy is a “deadbeat” are making inaccurate claims. Bundy has in fact paid fees to Clark County, Nevada in an arrangement pre-dating the BLM. The BLM arrived much later, changed the details of the setup without consulting with Bundy — or any other rancher — and then began systematically driving out cattle and ranchers. Bundy refused to pay BLM, especially after they demanded he reduce his heard’s head count down to a level that would not sustain his ranch. Bundy OWNS the water and forage rights to this land. He paid for these rights. He built fences, established water ways, and constructed roads with his own money, with the approval of Nevada and BLM. When BLM started using his fees to run him off the land and harassing him, he ceased paying. So should BLM reimburse him for managing the land and for the confiscation of his water and forage rights?

Cliven Bundy’s problem isn’t that he didn’t pay — he did — or that his cattle bother tortoises — they don’t

Edited April 12, 2014 by Steve Butters

[Strictly Street]

The militia is an interesting move. Haven't seen them in play politically much before.

They are quite open about it as well. Odd they are not getting the standard "Tin-Foil-Hat" treatment this time in the media.

 

Interesting how the State is acting vs the Feds.

 

My guess is there is quite a bit going on behind the scene here. Ought to be interesting how this shakes out in view of the recent complaints against the BLM from everybody in the last couple of years.

[Steve Butters]

Yea.. Even the governor of Nevada is upset how blm is handling this... It's all a mess... Just waiting for the one person with an itchy trigger finger (on either side) to ignite this whole situation

[Gump]

Statement from Shirlee Bundy-

"I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next. Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks"

Funny, when Reid is justly thrown under the buss the Feds backed off. Could have nothing to do with it.

Legal issue vs. How much bad PR do democrats want now.

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-cliven-bundy-to-meet-with-clark-co-sheriff/

Edited April 12, 2014 by Gump

[Strictly Street]

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

A small legal hurdle for the BLM. This guy does have a point. The feds are basically foreclosing on the land without any clear legal right to do so.

I'm waiting for an executive order and Eric Holder to decide that this is something he should prosecute under the "Broad Discretion" to selectively enforce the law that he claims he has.

 

There isn't much land left in Nevada.

 

 

The Harry Reid angle is priceless.

[Strictly Street]

BUNKERVILLE (KSNV MyNews3.com) -- The gathering of rancher Cliven Bundy's cattle in northeast Clark County has been stopped by the director of the Bureau of Land Management.

The BLM announcement came as Bundy was meeting with Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie about the week-long dispute.

The BLM had been using contract cowboys to round up Bundy's 900 head of cattle that have been grazing over 600,000 square acres in northeast Clark County for more than 20 years without his payment of grazing fees.

As of Friday they had secure 389 cattle from the Gold Butte area, nearly 90 percent of them marked with the Bundy Ranch brand.

All of the public land closed for the cattle roundup have been reopened, the BLM said today.

New BLM Director Neil Kornze made the following statement this morning:

"As we have said from the beginning of the gather to remove illegal cattle from federal land consistent with court orders, a safe and peaceful operation is our number one priority. After one week, we have made progress in enforcing two recent court orders to remove the trespass cattle from public lands that belong to all Americans.

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public.

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner.

Ranching has always been an important part of our nation’s heritage and continues throughout the West on public lands that belong to all Americans. This is a matter of fairness and equity, and we remain disappointed that Cliven Bundy continues to not comply with the same laws that 16,000 public lands ranchers do every year. After 20 years and multiple court orders to remove the trespass cattle, Mr. Bundy owes the American taxpayers in excess of $1 million. The BLM will continue to work to resolve the matter administratively and judicially."

Gov. Brian Sandoval reacted to the BLM decision with a statement.

"The safety of all individuals involved in this matter has been my highest priority," the email said. "Given the circumstances, today's outcome is the best we could have hoped for. I appreciate that the Department of the Interior and the BLM were willing to listen to the concerns of the people of Nevada."

 

 

via ABC news:

 

A Nevada cattle rancher appears to have won his week-long battle with the federal government over a controversial cattle roundup that had led to the arrest of several protesters.

Cliven Bundy went head to head with the Bureau of Land Management over the removal of hundreds of his cattle from federal land, where the government said they were grazing illegally.

Bundy claims his herd of roughly 900 cattle have grazed on the land along the riverbed near Bunkerville, 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas, since 1870 and threatened a "range war" against the BLM on the Bundy Ranch website after one of his sons was arrested while protesting the removal of the cattle.

 

"I have no contract with the United States government," Bundy said. "I was paying grazing fees for management and that's what BLM was supposed to be, land managers and they were managing my ranch out of business, so I refused to pay."

 

The federal government had countered that Bundy "owes the American people in excess of $1 million " in unpaid grazing fees and "refuses to abide by the law of land, despite many opportunities over the last 20 years to do so."

 

However, today the BLM said it would not enforce a court order to remove the cattle and was pulling out of the area.

 

"Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public," BLM Director Neil Kornze said.

 

"We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner," he said.

 

 

Looks like it's over for now....

Edited April 12, 2014 by Strictly Street

[ReconRat]

Not over yet. The "protesters" want the cattle back that were taken. The I-15 freeway got shut down because of the crowd. Lawmakers from neighboring states are talking about joining them. This is happening right now. Probably nothing will happen. But would be nice if they got the cattle back. Local news, not national.

 

http://www.mynews3.com/content/news/story/I-15-closed-as-Bundy-backers-seek-to-free-cattle/tc2H-cCb902_JSTV73J5mg.cspx

 

http://www.kspr.com/news/nationworld/URGENT-Nevada-Interstate-Standoff/21051646_25449636

 

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/25231704/nhp-part-of-i-15-closed-because-of-bundy-protesters

 

http://www.suindependent.com/news/id_5752/BREAKING-NEWS:-Bundy-calls-for-supporters-to-shut-down-I-15,-forcibly-release-his-cattle.html

 

edit: Local news is saying the BLM will release the hundred head of cattle they have there at that location. Nobody seems to know what happened to the rest. Not real clear, but all of the cattle might be returned.

 

 

The case is the latest flourish of the civil disobedience popularized during the 1970s Sagebrush Rebellion, a movement that sought greater local control in 12 Western states where the federal government administers 60% of the land.  

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-nevada-rancher-blm-20140412,0,1159016.story#ixzz2yi8Q9Nxy

 

 

Edited April 12, 2014 by ReconRat

[Strictly Street]

Eyewitness: BLM “Scared Crapless” By Thousands of Armed Americans Supporting Nevada Rancher Bundy

 

 

 

The following is the personal account of a female Los Angeles attorney who drove Bunkersville, Nevada, to support besieged rancher Cliven Bundy

I rolled into Laughlin really early, like 5:30 am. So many people had shown up, that we decided to leave in groups. A second group to leave at 8 AM as scheduled. Ours was a big group too. About two dozen cars, loaded with passengers.

The highway was almost empty until near Mesquite. Then it was a traffic jam. Motor homes, campers, ATVs running along side the freeway, motorcyles, vehicles, every thing you could possibly imagine. Everyone on their way to Bunkersville.

Then it [the traffic] about stopped, just inching along.

Word traveled down the traffic line that the feds had blocked the road just out of Mesquite and were searching vehicles for weapons and cell phones. Cell phones were confiscated and smashed. The people were given a chit for $30.00 redemption value. I left my phone at home.

Some of us that had four wheel drives decided to just leave the road and head overland. As we got closer to the ridge, we were stopped by armed militia. We could not go any further. We could wait, or turn around and go back to the road. Men, who I suspect were special forces, had climbed the ridge from the back side and captured the snipers. They were at that moment coming down the ridge to take them to Mesquite where they would be let go. They weren’t prisoners, they were just going to be replaced by friendlies.

Because of the roadblock on I-15, people refused to be searched, and refused to turn back. They just pulled off the road and parked. It was like a dam backing up a river. Soon the feds were trapped between the Americans who had already gotten through, and the Americans who had been stopped on the highway. The BLM agents went into full panic mode and called for help. LVPD [Las Vegas Police Department] who had REFUSED to show up to help Americans HAD to show up to rescue BLM that was now trapped and helpless. The blockade was SEVEN MILES LONG! That’s a potload of people.

The People vs. BLM

A group of armed Americans along with local cowboys went to Mesquite to liberate the cows that had been confiscated and held by BLM. They were being driven back home in an old fashioned cattle drive. The feds say it was voluntary [that they voluntarily returned the confiscated cattle to Bundy], don’t believe it.

I was basically standing around twiddling my thumbs when the word came down that the Director of BLM had surrendered and all forces would be withdrawn. I could not go on. The road was blocked and would be blocked probably for the rest of the day at least. A bunch of us turned around and left. It was over.

There were THOUSANDS of people there, and more arriving every minute. The ranch, Gold Butte, the entire area was completely surrounded by Americans. The highway was completely blocked in both directions of people trying to get through. Everyone was very peaceful and friendly. No fights or anything. There was a rumor in the line, that some of the mercenaries hired by the feds had defected and were now on the side of the Americans.

I came back and immediately saw this [the media's] pack of lies and half truths.

At one point, I-15 was closed in both directions, about seven miles south of Mesquite, because protesters had blocked the freeway. Nearly two dozen police officers and a SWAT unit were at the scene to keep the peace and assist the BLM enforcement officers to safely leave the area. They were scared crapless!

 

 

 

 

Some crazy stuff going on here.

Edited April 16, 2014 by Strictly Street

[oldschoolsdime92]

I've been following this for awhile. Really wild stuff

[magley64]

Fuck those militia terrorist assholes.

[Tonik]

Fuck those militia terrorist assholes.

That's exactly what King George III said.

[mattm]

Just wanted to post a few facts.

Fact: federal government owns the land. Look up the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

Fact: guvment ownership predates Nevada statehood.

Fact: Nevada state constitution maintains government ownership of land. Civil war and such

Fact: Reagan institutes grazing leases by executive order in 1986. Not sure if communist, Marxist, California usurper?

Fact: Bundy pays grazing lease year to year from 1986 until 1993.

Fact: Bundy doesn't pay the lease in 1993 but uses the land anyway. He still uses the land for his cattle today.

Fact: government closes the lease in 1994. Technically the government is now free to do what it wants with the land.

Fact: something about turtles after 1994 but it doesn't matter because there is no lease.

Fact: 20 years of lawsuits without a single Bundy victory.

Fact: Bundy represents himself because any lawyer that actually argued that the state of Nevada was sovereign and the federal government doesn't exist would be disbarred post haste.

Fact: after the last court loss in 20 years of losses, the BLM gets a court order to impound the cattle.

Fact: accusations of a tasering and general unrest. If you have seen repo men, it all seems plausible but doesn't forgive 20 years of breaking the law. Both sides most likely acted badly.

The rest is history. The future will include the Bundy ranch being liquidated to pay the back leases. If Bundy is smart he would settle or his kids and grand kids lose.

Just wanted to post some very real facts. Nation of laws and all that....

Edited April 17, 2014 by mattm

[magley64]

Fuck those militia terrorist assholes.

No, seriously... I just watched the local KLAS news footage showing these anti-American terrorists aiming their weapons at our federal agents. I also watched the news footage of pappy asshole surrounded by anti-American troops demanding that the local sheriff destroy federal property and disarm federal agents within the hour or else... fuck every one of those militia terrorist assholes. Edited April 17, 2014 by magley64

[magley64]

The militia is an interesting move. Haven't seen them in play politically much before.

I have, it was in a town called Waco Texas in 1993.

[DAC]

That's exactly what King George III said.

 

It's actually what Abraham Lincoln said too.

 

"There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law."

 

 - Abraham Lincoln, The Perpetuation of Our Political Institutions:

Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum of Springfield, Illinois

January 27, 1838

[Steve Butters]

guess who else were considered terrorists by masses?

 

 

 

and look where we are now......idk about you guys (aside from Graeme), but I didn't eat tea and crumpits or whatever the fuck theyre eating in England right now for breakfast. God bless America and our patriots.

 

The Fed needs to stop putting their nose where it does not belong. They are trying to control every single aspect of our lives, and people are finally getting sick of it.

[magley64]

Those men were opposing a foreign king, not a government they voted on and elected. If you don't like what's going on, stage a protest, assemble. Don't demand that your local sheriff destroy federal property, and don't threaten violence against our federal employees.

What happens when our military steps in and defends the federal agents next time? (You know, like how they didn't in benghazi) Would you support the militia firing on our military?

Edited April 17, 2014 by magley64

[Casper]

Those men were opposing a foreign king, not a government they voted on and elected. If you don't like what's going on, stage a protest, assemble. Don't demand that your local sheriff destroy federal property, and don't threaten violence against our federal employees.

What happens when our military steps in and defends the federal agents next time? (You know, like how they didn't in benghazi) Would you support the militia firing on our military?

Martial law would have to be declared. That's another whole can of worms.

[Tonik]

Those men were opposing a foreign king, not a government they voted on and elected. If you don't like what's going on, stage a protest, assemble. Don't demand that your local sheriff destroy federal property, and don't threaten violence against our federal employees.

What happens when our military steps in and defends the federal agents next time? (You know, like how they didn't in benghazi) Would you support the militia firing on our military?

 

Mags my hypocritical friend, could you link me to your post where you condemned Occupy Wall Street protesters who actually looted, burned, raped and murdered people, unlike these people in Nevada that just talked shit and did nothing.

[magley64]

Mags my hypocritical friend, could you link me to your post where you condemned Occupy Wall Street protesters who actually looted, burned, raped and murdered people, unlike these people in Nevada that just talked shit and did nothing.

I didn't support the ones who were being violent... Just as I'm not condemning those here who weren't threatening federal agents with guns.