Nevada Rancher News

[Strictly Street]

Kinda long but it's a great "Follow-the-money-trail" article. Looks like the last rancher in the county is about to get steam rollered. Look at who he is up against.

From: http://noisyroom.net/blog/2014/04/17/latest-clintonobama-cronies-behind-push-to-remove-bundy-cattle/

Yea, I know, not a mainstream source.

 

Following a weeklong confrontation between protestors and police from the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), events at the Bundy ranch in Bunkerville, Nevada came to an abrupt end on Saturday, April 11, when the BLM suddenly threw in the towel and left. Speaking to a local TV news program Monday, Nevada Senator and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said, “This isn’t over…” And he is certainly correct. The showdown between BLM and Cliven Bundy – the last rancher in Clark County, Nevada – was but the latest battle in a long-running conflict, and it is sure to continue. Too much is at stake.

Supposedly at issue was the desert tortoise, a reptile on the endangered species list which could not coexist on the land with Bundy’s cattle. But why would the turtle suddenly be threatened by animals it had cohabited with for the 100 plus years the Bundy ranch has been in operation?

A BLM document unearthed last week discusses mitigation strategies for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone. Dry Lake is just southwest of the Bundy ranch. The “mitigation strategy” proposed to use the grazing lands near the Bundy ranch as a kind of sanctuary for the desert tortoise, because the entire region is slated for a large number of solar, wind and geothermal energy generation facilities. The solar projects especially will obliterate most of the turtle’s natural habitat.

Bloggers quickly made a connection between the effort to remove Bundy’s cattle and a solar energy project located in Southern Nevada and financed by the Communist Chinese energy firm ENN. It was to be the largest solar farm in the U.S. Senator Reid had lobbied heavily for their business, even traveling to China to do so. Reid’s son, formerly a Clark County Commissioner, became a lobbyist for ENN, and Reid placed a former senior advisor, Neil Kornze, to lead the BLM, presumably to assure the enterprise’s success.

Seemed like a slam dunk. But a solar energy complex financed by the Communist Chinese was not at the heart of the Bundy Ranch fiasco after all. That project died last year. However, the BLM’s library of renewable energy projects accessed by the author revealed it was only one of more than 50 solar, wind and geothermal projects planned for Nevada, California, Arizona and other Western states. Reid was actually focused on at least one, and maybe more of these projects, much closer to the Bundy ranch. He was at the work site on March 21, 2014 to help break ground on the Moapa Southern Paiute Solar Project. A close inspection of this project reveals why there is so much interest in the area and why the BLM, presumably at Reid’s urging through his water boy, Neil Kornze, is so intent on getting Bundy off the land. Reid, for all his rampant corruption (the Nevada mob call him “Cleanface”), looks to be little more than the bagman in this caper. Oh sure, he and his boys will get rich, but not like the others.

The leaseholder for this project is K Road Power, LLC, a New York City-based energy company. An examination of their website finds their business development manager to be none other than Jonathan Magaziner. Magaziner was formerly an associate at the Clinton Climate Initiative of the William J. Clinton Foundation. He is also the son of Ira Magaziner, former senior policy advisor for Bill Clinton, also now conveniently working for the Clinton Foundation on health and environment issues. Just one big, happy, and soon to be even richer, family. There are doubtless more connections to Democratic insiders here.

But that is not all. A company called First Solar is listed on a BLM renewable energy project map of southern Nevada, one of 11 sited in Clark County. Additionally, the map shows six wind projects in Clark County, and also lists the K Road Moapa project under “transmission projects.” In other words, there is a lot going on. How did the media miss all that?

First Solar investors comprise a who’s who of the corrupt, Democratic Left insider crowd, including major Obama campaign bundlers, billionaire investor Paul Tudor Jones, Al Gore, Ted Turner and Goldman Sachs. First Solar’s CEO is Michael Ahearn, former fundraiser for both Obama and Senator Harry Reid. First Solar has at least three other solar projects in California. So it becomes very apparent why the BLM, Harry Reid and many other interested parties have such an intense interest in the desert tortoise. They see green, oceans of it. But it is the kind that lines pockets, not the high desert.

This story has been completely missed by all mass media, even Fox News, but it explains both why Cliven Bundy has been facing such intense intimidation and why all the other ranchers have been chased out. Bundy is not merely threatening Harry Reid’s gravy train, but Obama’s, Clinton’s, Gore’s and an A list rogue’s gallery of professional Democrat sponges. It is surprising he is still alive.

This is what has been discovered by examining only a few of the 50-plus projects. Doubtless there is a similar story behind all of them. These entrepreneurial parasites are planning to turn the West into a massive money pit for “green” energy. The projects will eventually go as all others have gone before: falling in flames as the unsustainable costs, maintenance problems and true environmental catastrophes they create become intolerable. The true goal of “green” energy is to make these people wealthier, not to save the environment. As usual with this president, the American taxpayer will be left holding the bag, while he and his cronies will be long gone, laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[Strictly Street]

The militia is an interesting move. Haven't seen them in play politically much before.

 

 

 

I have, it was in a town called Waco Texas in 1993.

 

 

[ReconRat]

ummm, founding fathers were opposed to a government by decree that was supported by roughly half the population.

Remember the part about representation of the people? Not voted on and not elected was exactly the point...

[Strictly Street]

Interesting development...

 

Western lawmakers gather in Utah to talk federal land takeover

‘It’s time’ » Lawmakers from 9 states gather in Utah, discuss ways to take control of federal lands.

By Kristen Moulton

| The Salt Lake Tribune

 

First Published Apr 18 2014 03:07 pm • Last Updated Apr 18 2014 10:21 pm

It’s time for Western states to take control of federal lands within their borders, lawmakers and county commissioners from Western states said at Utah’s Capitol on Friday.

More than 50 political leaders from nine states convened for the first time to talk about their joint goal: wresting control of oil-, timber -and mineral-rich lands away from the feds.

 

 

   

"It’s simply time," said Rep. Ken Ivory, R-West Jordan, who organized the Legislative Summit on the Transfer for Public Lands along with Montana state Sen. Jennifer Fielder. "The urgency is now."

 

Utah House Speaker Becky Lockhart, R-Provo, was flanked by a dozen participants, including her counterparts from Idaho and Montana, during a press conference after the daylong closed-door summit. U.S. Sen. Mike Lee addressed the group over lunch, Ivory said. New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Wyoming, Oregon and Washington also were represented.

The summit was in the works before this month’s tense standoff between Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the Bureau of Land Management over cattle grazing, Lockhart said.

"What’s happened in Nevada is really just a symptom of a much larger problem," Lockhart said.

 

more here: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57836973-90/utah-lands-lawmakers-federal.html.csp

 

 

 

Sounds like it might be a good thing. Until this happened I didn't realize just how much land the feds had control of. Nor how badly they were managing it. Seems like they were using it as a personal wealth builder instead of being stewards for the public. I'm thinking it's past time to clip the wings of the self-serving political class.

[C-bus]

I have, it was in a town called Waco Texas in 1993.

Kiddie-fucking religious zealots. Apples/oranges.

I actually cancelled my NRA membership for ten years following a pro-Waco article.

Nevertheless... Good for Bundy. Fuck the Feds.

[magley64]

Kiddie-fucking religious zealots. Apples/oranges.

I actually cancelled my NRA membership for ten years following a pro-Waco article.

Nevertheless... Good for Bundy. Fuck the Feds.

Still a militia... Didn't say they were analogous.

[Strictly Street]

Still a militia... Didn't say they were analogous.

 

Care to explain the logic of this statement?

[magley64]

Care to explain the logic of this statement?

Both are militias... That's all

[Tonik]

Both are militias... That's all

Actually, neither are militias. Just another word that has been bastardised by the politicians and press. Kinda like assault rifle has.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Tonik

[magley64]

Actually, neither are militias.

Okay, true enough, both situations involved assholes dressed in military style clothing who called themselves a militia.

[Tonik]

Okay, true enough, both situations involved assholes dressed in military style clothing who called themselves a militia.

 

Actually I have never seen any evidence that the nutjobs in Waco dressed in military style clothing, or that they called themselves militia. They were kind of Amishlike in their dress. You are the first person I have ever heard say anything like that. Could you provide some evidence for your claim please that they called themselves a milita rather than a religious organization and how they dressed.  Oh, and mainstream media please, none of that fringe media you complain about all the time.

Edited April 20, 2014 by Tonik

[magley64]

Actually I have never seen any evidence that the nutjobs in Waco dressed in military style clothing, or that they called themselves militia. They were kind of Amishlike in their dress. You are the first person I have ever heard say anything like that. Could you provide some evidence for your claim please that they called themselves a milita rather than a religious organization and how they dressed. Oh, and mainstream media please, none of that fringe media you complain about all the time.

Ron cole is the poster boy for branch davidians.

[Strictly Street]

Ron cole is the poster boy for branch davidians.

 

Really?

 

No he's not. He's was just a member of the group.

From Wikipedia:

Ron Cole is a Branch Davidian follower of David Koresh and a figure in the militia movement in the United States. He was the founder and leader of the Colorado Light Infantry and North American Liberation Army militia groups in 1993. Cole is the author of the book Sinister Twilight, in which he attempts to explain the Branch Davidian side of the standoff with federal authorities that took place in Waco, Texas in 1993. Cole became a national anti-government figure after the events of the Waco siege.[1]

It says he founded militias not that the Davidians were a militia.

I think the term militia would be best applied to a political organization rather than "some guy with a firearm" as you are using the word. Granted you are in lock step with the "Mainstream Media". All dogs are "Pitt Bulls" all guns are "assault weapons" which as you mirror them gives you the color of being correct but in fact both of you are incorrect in your alarmist speech.

Branch Davidian Paul Fatta was a federal firearms licensed dealer and the group operated a retail gun business called the Mag Bag.

Does this make anyone with a firearm a "militia"? Therefore a terrorist? Therefor a target for the government?

[magley64]

Really?

No he's not. He's was just a member of the group.

From Wikipedia:

Ron Cole is a Branch Davidian follower of David Koresh and a figure in the militia movement in the United States. He was the founder and leader of the Colorado Light Infantry and North American Liberation Army militia groups in 1993. Cole is the author of the book Sinister Twilight, in which he attempts to explain the Branch Davidian side of the standoff with federal authorities that took place in Waco, Texas in 1993. Cole became a national anti-government figure after the events of the Waco siege.[1]

It says he founded militias not that the Davidians were a militia.

I think the term militia would be best applied to a political organization rather than "some guy with a firearm" as you are using the word. Granted you are in lock step with the "Mainstream Media". All dogs are "Pitt Bulls" all guns are "assault weapons" which as you mirror them gives you the color of being correct but in fact both of you are incorrect in your alarmist speech.

Branch Davidian Paul Fatta was a federal firearms licensed dealer and the group operated a retail gun business called the Mag Bag.

Does this make anyone with a firearm a "militia"? Therefore a terrorist? Therefor a target for the government?

Pit bulls are just dogs with the jaw strength to cause serious injury and death when they attack people.

Assault weapons already have a clear definition, feel free to look it up.

You're a terrorist if you use your gun for the purpose of threatening violence to get your way.

[jdonn]

Pit bulls are just dogs with the jaw strength to cause serious injury and death when they attack people.

Assault weapons already have a clear definition, feel free to look it up.

You're a terrorist if you use your gun for the purpose of threatening violence to get your way.

Our founding fathers were terrorists?!

Edited April 20, 2014 by jdonn

[magley64]

Our founding fathers were terrorists?!

You seem surprised by this revelation....

Yes they were extremists and terrorists.

[Tonik]

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You're a terrorist if you use your gun for the purpose of threatening violence to get your way.

Is Obama a terrorist for bombing the hell out of Lyba to force a change in government? How about supplying weapons to Al Qaeda linked groups in Syria?

[magley64]

Is Obama a terrorist for bombing the hell out of Lyba to force a change in government? How about supplying weapons to Al Qaeda linked groups in Syria?

You mean police actions? I haven't seen Obama pointing a gun at anyone...

[JackFlash]

It's way past time for a bloody

revolution in this country.

 

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[ReconRat]

The National Guard is a federalized state militia. Back when, anyway. Leaving behind a weakened official organized state militia and an unorganized state militia. Most states cover all of the above in state laws. Typical would be all persons male and female between the ages of 16 and 67 are included in service in time of need. Most states are again strengthening their state militias. Mostly for use in natural disasters as organized supply of disaster relief and military police. They are trained for it and are better than volunteers. (And apparently states think better than federal assistance.)

 

So hating militia would be.... pretty much everyone.

Edited April 20, 2014 by ReconRat

[Tonik]

You mean police actions? I haven't seen Obama pointing a gun at anyone...

No, I mean supplying weapons to terrorists in Syria.

[magley64]

The National Guard is a federalized state militia. Back when, anyway. Leaving behind a weakened official organized state militia and an unorganized state militia. Most states cover all of the above in state laws. Typical would be all persons male and female between the ages of 16 and 67 are included in service in time of need. Most states are again strengthening their state militias. Mostly for use in natural disasters as organized supply of disaster relief and military police. They are trained for it and are better than volunteers. (And apparently states think better than federal assistance.)

So hating militia would be.... pretty much everyone.

I Don't hate militias, but many involved in this particular event crossed the line from peacefully protesting to terrorism.

[ReconRat]

I Don't hate militias, but many involved in this particular event crossed the line from peacefully protesting to terrorism.

Those are unorganized militias, that are mostly not recognized by states. Unorganized militias exist only at the request of a state. There would be a wide variety. But still, they are potentially militia, since everyone is potentially militia per most state law. Some states even require the male population of age to own a military rifle. Old law, most everyone ignores that part anymore. Or even back at the time, since it was expensive. (Or useless, since when called most showed up with civilian hunting rifles, not military rifles.)

 

By definition of terrorism in 18 U.S.C. § 2331, it could have been domestic terrorism, except that it didn't quite meet the requirements. Most terrorism requires violence or harm. I'm sure there's a "conspiracy to commit" rule somewhere to cover the "almost but wasn't". If there's reasonable charges, I'm sure there will be arrests. Until then, saying otherwise would be probably be defamation of character.

 

edit: ok, I looked up recent revisions of code and definitions. It covers a lot more in terms of activity. Even "exercising first amendment rights" in the wrong place could be considered domestic terrorism. But it looks like in all cases a federal or state law must be broken in the process, at a minimum.

Edited April 21, 2014 by ReconRat

[magley64]

Those are unorganized militias, that are mostly not recognized by states. Unorganized militias exist only at the request of a state. There would be a wide variety. But still, they are potentially militia, since everyone is potentially militia per most state law. Some states even require the male population of age to own a military rifle. Old law, most everyone ignores that part anymore. Or even back at the time, since it was expensive. (Or useless, since when called most showed up with civilian hunting rifles, not military rifles.)

By definition of terrorism in 18 U.S.C. § 2331, it could have been domestic terrorism, except that it didn't quite meet the requirements. Most terrorism requires violence or harm. I'm sure there's a "conspiracy to commit" rule somewhere to cover the "almost but wasn't". If there's reasonable charges, I'm sure there will be arrests. Until then, saying otherwise would be probably be defamation of character.

edit: ok, I looked up recent revisions of code and definitions. It covers a lot more in terms of activity. Even "exercising first amendment rights" in the wrong place could be considered domestic terrorism. But it looks like in all cases a federal or state law must be broken in the process, at a minimum.

How about obstruction of justice? These agents were executing a lawfully gained warrant when these terrorists showed up and started aiming rifles at them.

[Strictly Street]

Pit bulls are just dogs with the jaw strength to cause serious injury and death when they attack people.

Assault weapons already have a clear definition, feel free to look it up.

You're a terrorist if you use your gun for the purpose of threatening violence to get your way.

 

Without going further down the path of defining the definition of a group and/or splitting hairs over those definitions.

 

The Waco incident was not an overtly political event. The Bundy ranch was.  Whether or not it started as such that is how it is ending. Very political.

States rights vs, Federal rights. Both sides have legal precedent. And as far as I can tell this is a very grey area as far as supreme court law.

Also is citizen rights vs government rights. This is going to be very interesting when it all shakes out.