jd724 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) Anyone try these? I've heard nothing but good things about the beads. I've read that they can balance a tire better than weights. Was wondering what the thoughts here were on em. On that note, I'm thinking about starting to do my own tire replacement. I saw some videos on guys mounting tires by squeezing the tire together with zip ties to get them mounted, using something like windex to lube up the rim a bit. It looked easier than using tire irons and less of a chance of scratching rims. It doesn't look too healthy for the tire though. How all this started was that I've got a vibration problem after I had a new front tire installed.I don't remember noticing anything til I had the new tire installed. I'm pretty sure its in the wheel/bars. It doesn;t feel like it's in the engine. I don't feel as much vibration in the pegs or the tank. It really feel likes its all up front. I replaced the tires with a new set of q3's so it's not and probably never was a tire installation/ balance issue. Basically, when people you trust try to tell you in so many words that the problem is all in your head or just ride slower, you might start to take matters into your own hands and do the work yourself. I've put every single mile on this bike from 0. I know when something isn't right. I've worked on my cars and it's time I start wrenching this bike as much as I can within my skill limits. There's a lot of things that are out of my skill level but I'm going to learn as much as I can. No-one cares as much about my bike as I do Let me know what you all think about the tire mount and the beads. Edited April 22, 2014 by jd724 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Not a fan of the beads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 My other brother just put some in his new tires. He said it was smooth. No issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevysoldier Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I have them in mine. They work well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat0403 Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 They work...until you have to change the tire, then little beads everywhere. I used them, and sold them at the shop i worked at a while back. When it came to change the tire i took it to iron pony and completely forgot about them. Tire dude was not happy. They also had eroded away so there was a conglomeration of powder, sand, and beads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 I use them in everything I own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 They are nothing but a gimmick in my eyes, and yes I have tried them once. Would be curious as to what Hoblick thinks about them, especially since he has done so many tire changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 Wheel weights work just fine. Do any OEM's use the beads? If they were better/faster/cheaper I would expect them to get some attention from vehicle or tire manufacturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 22, 2014 Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 They are nothing but a gimmick in my eyes, and yes I have tried them once. Would be curious as to what Hoblick thinks about them, especially since he has done so many tire changes.He has put them in my tires no Gimmick they are in every tire I own. Also ran in most semi fleets and large commercial tires, dump trucks, semis etc as spin balancing them is hard and costly. I used to work for Arctic Express and they had a fleet of 500 semis, all running Equal, a different brand but same thing as Dyna Beads. All commercial truck tire shops have them and install them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd724 Posted April 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 OK so I guess I might try them. The whole reason being, as I said, I want to start changing my own tires. If they work they would make getting a good balance on a tire a lot easier in a home garage. I did see two videos where the beads broke down and stuck to the inside of the tires. Kinda curious about that since ceramic wheel bearings last forever. Im no physicist or polymer engineer so I wont even pretend to know anything about how durable ceramics can be. The yays outweigh the nays so I'll probably give them a shot on my next set of tires. If I ride much more with 330racing ill be buying more tires probably by July. Trying (and failing) to keep up with him. I'm not expecting them to fix my vibration problem. As I said I don't fault the tires there. I'm leaning towards wheel bearings now but I will probably start with having a shop do a TB check/sync. Along with checking torque on the bolts and checking engine balancers. I may try that myself. I only have 8k on the bike but its really starting to feel like wheel bearings. I'm not feeling any pulsing in the rotors but I'm not ruling them out either. At $600 a pair for new oem, they will be the last thing I replace. I may even try a pair of low mileage take-offs. One other thing I need to find out is, how much the Brocks 4 into 1 full system changes the harmonics. I also had a lighter set of bar ends on last season and I went back to the stocks. The stocks don't feel like they went on as snug as they should. But, again, it really feels like its in the wheel somewhere. Anyone have an opinion the zip-tie method of tire installation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd724 Posted April 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) And btw, If I'm being stupid about something please tell me. I would rather be called out on being dumb and learning something from it than messing up my bike. Edited April 22, 2014 by jd724 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 And btw, If I'm being stupid about something please tell me. I would rather be called out on being dumb and learning something from it than messing up my bike.Am I reading your post right....racing? Dynabeads are not recommended for racing per the manufacturer. Something about the soft tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 They are fine for racing. The issue is with soft compound tires and warmers you can end up with some sticking. DOT race tires and Medium compounds no probs. Soft compounds with prolonged times in warmers on HI causes issues because the beads are not moving in the warmers and the soft compound gets sticky when hot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFlash Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Would be curious as to what Hoblick thinks about them, especially since he has done so many tire changes. I asked him about them. He mentioned hehas seen them become embedded in tires.Other than that, wasn't much said about themexcept that some people like them. . Edited April 23, 2014 by JackFlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Can you even tell on the track if a tire is balanced or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd724 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Sorry guys! When I said 330racing, I meant the member here that goes by 330racing. He's a damn good rider. Much faster than me. He keeps me on my toes and then some. A good guy and great fun to ride with. I haven't had this bike on a track yet. I'm running q3's currently. Not sure how soft they would be on a hot day at the track if I do decide to go. I will definitely think about it and do some more research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Go with the short guys opinion over mine. His is first hand knowledge, mine was just something I remembered from when I checked into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 The Q3 is not a soft compound. They are fine. I run Q2 & 3 as well as medium compound slicks. The issue is soft compound slicks left on warmers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) I used them and pulled 8600 miles out of a set of Conti motions on a triumph sprint st. They worked well. Edited April 23, 2014 by oldschoolsdime92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschoolsdime92 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 He has put them in my tires no Gimmick they are in every tire I own. Also ran in most semi fleets and large commercial tires, dump trucks, semis etc as spin balancing them is hard and costly. I used to work for Arctic Express and they had a fleet of 500 semis, all running Equal, a different brand but same thing as Dyna Beads. All commercial truck tire shops have them and install them tooI second this. My dump truck runs them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Put me in the nay column fwiw, they may work, but I think a couple lead weights mounted on the wheel is better than a bunch of shit spinning around inside my tires. Car or dump truck? Whatever, my motorcycle that routinely goes over 100, no thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Even better for bike going over 100. They are active balancing, so balance is always right. They reset and rebalance every time the tire stops and starts. With lead weights they only balance the time they are put on, balance changes as the tire wears so the balance is never perfect after the first time. Plus lead weights are ugly on the wheel, fling off, need to be duct taped on for track days, peel your paint off when removed, cost more to have done and if you get a lazy tire guy they probably were not balanced perfect to begin with. The beads cost about $3-$5 for enough to do the front and rear tire and you put them in yourself one time and done. As opposed to an average of $10-$15 a wheel as shops are charging around me to balance and then going in and paying again if on flys off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Even better for bike going over 100. They are active balancing, so balance is always right. They reset and rebalance every time the tire stops and starts. With lead weights they only balance the time they are put on, balance changes as the tire wears so the balance is never perfect after the first time. Plus lead weights are ugly on the wheel, fling off, need to be duct taped on for track days, peel your paint off when removed, cost more to have done and if you get a lazy tire guy they probably were not balanced perfect to begin with. The beads cost about $3-$5 for enough to do the front and rear tire and you put them in yourself one time and done. As opposed to an average of $10-$15 a wheel as shops are charging around me to balance and then going in and paying again if on flys off.I bought a $20 Harbor freight wheel balancer, and I have the Honda weights that snap in and grip the wheel center spline, no fly off. Easy to do, and no extra wear on the tire where there was never designed to be wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd724 Posted April 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 Good points magely! I'm still gonna try the beads. If I don't like em, i'll take a drive down to harbor freight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted April 23, 2014 Report Share Posted April 23, 2014 I wasn't trying to talk you out of trying them, I hope they work well for you. I Just don't trust them for my use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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