max power Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Gonna be building one within the next year and need to hear from those who have actually built or priced a barn, or kit, or materials. Want to build a 30 x 50, I think. Would like a platform or loft above the tool/bench area for storage. 220 electric. Water. Anything other suggestions?Will soon start researching using the fuel oil boiler that I'm removing from the house to run the heated floor. What size and price have you built? How much is concrete running these days? Etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 64 metals on 13 outside of Newark is your go to. Tons of shit to look at, both on site and pictures. All prices shown. Erected or Kits. All questions answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Your the second one to mention that place. I'll look into them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 If you're going to run water, you're gonna need heat (or heated pipe tape) right? Unless you plan to purge the lines with antifreeze in the winter. And if you're going to have water and heat, might as well build a bathroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 And if you have a bathroom, you need a stripper pole. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 then strippers and if you're gonna have strippers, you're gonne need blow. Lots of blow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Build it twice as big as you think you need. Once you start storing stuff, you're going to run out of usable space in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmh_sprint Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) If your going to have strippers then you'll need a sufficient light and sound system. I looked at 64 Metals when I built mine. They were #2 on my list when the time came to built. As for recommendations, a cupola with a good exhaust fan. I can cool my barn by 10 degrees in a matter of minutes and it helps with air flow during the summer. Edited September 4, 2014 by cmh_sprint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Matt, I was actually planning on installing fans up under the eaves in the ends to pull the heat out in the summer. Are you saying that the Cuppola helps to heat the building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmh_sprint Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 No. My fan is installed in my cupola and acts like a big exhaust fan.We leave it on all summer long to keep the barn a comfortable temp for the horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) Gotcha! What kind of fan? Edited September 4, 2014 by max power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 Think he got auto corrected from cool to cook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdubyah Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 For what it's worth. I know not totally on topic.Friend of the family built a pole barn for his garage. He has a hot water heater that runs hot water through tubes in concrete floor to heat the garage. It was the middle of feb. last I was there, probably 20 degrees out, the garge was nice and toasty.I have no idea who installed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 For what it's worth. I know not totally on topic.Friend of the family built a pole barn for his garage. He has a hot water heater that runs hot water through tubes in concrete floor to heat the garage. It was the middle of feb. last I was there, probably 20 degrees out, the garge was nice and toasty.I have no idea who installed it.I used to own a car wash that had floor heat. You need a boiler/heater and a circulating pump. They usually use glycol instead of water. A special kind of tubing needs to be installed inside the concrete as it's being poured. It works well, but not a very efficient heat source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 I'd think You'd want a big gable vent fan with Louvers to pull fumes out side the end of the building upwind of the most common wind. For painting and accidents and such. I'd imagine you'll seal off most of your ceiling with those 4x8 reflective insulation 1" thick foam sheets so your not heating an attic in the winter and the entire steel roof will be one big ridge vent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 For what it's worth. I know not totally on topic.Friend of the family built a pole barn for his garage. He has a hot water heater that runs hot water through tubes in concrete floor to heat the garage. It was the middle of feb. last I was there, probably 20 degrees out, the garge was nice and toasty.I have no idea who installed it.There is a fuel oil powered boiler system in the house currently that I plan to remove and try to use as floor heat in the garage. If anyone has any information or advice on this, it would be greatly appreciated.I'd think You'd want a big gable vent fan with Louvers to pull fumes out side the end of the building upwind of the most common wind. For painting and accidents and such. I'd imagine you'll seal off most of your ceiling with those 4x8 reflective insulation 1" thick foam sheets so your not heating an attic in the winter and the entire steel roof will be one big ridge vent.The gable fan is definitely something I want, but I'm not sure I will be putting in any form of drop ceiling due to the fact that I will have a platform built in for storage and may have a lift installed at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 (edited) There is a fuel oil powered boiler system in the house currently that I plan to remove and try to use as floor heat in the garage. If anyone has any information or advice on this, it would be greatly appreciated. You may want to talk with a car wash builder. That is probably the most common application for floor heat. There is a particular kind of tubing that will essentially last the life of the concrete. If you use something else it will eventually leak. A leaky floor heat system is cost prohibitive to try to diagnose or repair. Good luck finding the leak without a thermal imager. Also, use glycol, not water. Not all boilers are rated for glycol. Water freezing will split the tubing and my even crack the concrete. If you just want to heat a specific area, just get an electric heated matt. Edited September 4, 2014 by Tpoppa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted September 4, 2014 Report Share Posted September 4, 2014 There is a fuel oil powered boiler system in the house currently that I plan to remove and try to use as floor heat in the garage. If anyone has any information or advice on this, it would be greatly appreciated.The gable fan is definitely something I want, but I'm not sure I will be putting in any form of drop ceiling due to the fact that I will have a platform built in for storage and may have a lift installed at some point.Its foam board screwed to the bottom of the trusses. Seen guys use it then put in a ladder acces point that closes up tight for acces to the area. Makes heating the garage quick a lot easier. I think if you plan to install a lift you need clearspan trusses or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buxnut Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I built a 30 x 40 in 2008. 10 foot high sidewalls, clear panels along the top of one side walls for light. 10 foot sliding door on both ends. No power or water and a gravel floor. its primary use is to store the toys and tractor and implements. I used www.DIYpolebarns.com to buy all the materials through. At the time the kit ran me $7,500. looks like their prices have gone up a little since (like everything). They are a great company to work with. Quick to answer any questions I had (and there were a lot of them) even on the weekends. Don't know what part of the state your in, but if you can claim it as agricultural use and not have to file for permits, you will save yourself a ton of headaches in permit fees and inspections. As others have said, figure out how big of a barn you want and double it. it fills up FAST! http://s245.photobucket.com/user/buckeyenut_2007/embed/slideshow/Barn%20project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron505 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 (edited) Its foam board screwed to the bottom of the trusses. Seen guys use it then put in a ladder acces point that closes up tight for acces to the area. Makes heating the garage quick a lot easier. I think if you plan to install a lift you need clearspan trusses or something. If you're going to use a foam for a ceiling, make sure it is stought enough to span 4', because most likely your trusses will be 4' OC. And if you are thinking about a lift in the future, I'd go a little taller than 10' side walls unless you get scissor trusses or build your own roof system using rafters. Scissor trusses or rafters will up your price quite a bit. Edited September 5, 2014 by Ron505 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I was planning on 16 foot high as I want to put a loft in for storage.Does anyone have any information on concrete? Like how much it costs at the moment and how much area does a square yard actually fill at 4" or 6" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted September 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Do I have to pull permits to build a barn in Fairfield co? I was told if I said it was agricultural I wouldn't need permits/inspections. Anyone know if that's true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 Aren't permits just so they know to raise your property taxes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 You may have to be CAUV. which means you grow or raise and sell something and I thought that had to be 10 continuous acres. Hence, why cows are a good ideas for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron505 Posted September 5, 2014 Report Share Posted September 5, 2014 I believe anything perminent and closed in with a roof needs to be permitted in Fairfield County, but not positive. May depend on the Township too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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