Tonik Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 So I was due for a coolant change and did so Saturday. Since I was doing it, I went for Engine Ice. Flushed it twice, filled it up ran it, let it cool. Did that process a couple of times. I really don't see this being an air bubble issue, the bike isn't prone to that and when that happens it usually overheats bad. It is now without question running hotter than it did before. Rode for an hour last night and it ran hotter the whole time, not over heating hot but a full mark hotter on the gauge. Same thing just idling in the driveway, it levels out a full mark higher than it used to when idling in the drive. Anyone seen this on engine ice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Only thing Ive heard is it will do that if mixed with ethylene glycol based antifreeze but if you flushed your system thoroughly that should not be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVTPilot Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 I had the opposite experience when I ran it in my RC51. It wasn't overwhelming, but did run a few degrees cooler with engine ice vs. standard coolant. Then put water wetter in it and it ran about the same difference cooler. Granted "cooler" running for the illogically engineered RC51 cooling system can be a bit of a misnomer. It was still hot as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Something isn't right. Even if this stuff is total BS (which I don't think) it can't be worse. Damn it. There is no bleeder screw on this thing, no one else has had any air bubble issues with it. Damn it. Edited March 16, 2016 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaler Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) Did you bleed the system at the water pump? Kawasaki's have a habit of trapping air in the lower part of the cooling system. Personally I would go back to stock or the old Honda Green standard. Have seen engine ice and water wetter quickly corrode an engine...they just do not have the inhibitors that regular coolants have. Edited March 16, 2016 by whaler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, whaler said: Did you bleed the system at the water pump? Kawasaki's have a habit of trapping air in the lower part of the cooling system. Personally I would go back to stock or the old Honda Green standard. Have seen engine ice and water wetter quickly corrode an engine...they just do not have the inhibitors that regular coolants have. Im gonna go back. Yea Kaws trap air, my previous 1600 Nomad was a bitch about that. But the newer 1700 motors...that I have... dont. It unheard of and there isnt a bleeder. Edited March 16, 2016 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 I've been running engine ice since 2006. Never had any corrosion issues and bikes have always ran a little cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1crusher Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Another user of Engine Ice. It's been in the 1000 for quite a few years and always did what it's supposed to. No overheating or running hotter like you've experienced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Z. Heimer Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 No experience with the product but just like a lot of things different results for different people. Google this. " Engine runs hotter with engine ice ". Your not alone in your observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaler Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Engine ice makes no actual claims to running cooler, only may run cooler. I suspect they would not because it's made with propylene glycol which has less heat transfer than ethylene glycol. Those who see major improvements probably removed old coolest which had lost efficiency do to corrosion and evaporation over time. coolent should be changed every two years or you run the risk of corrosion and diminished heat transfer capacity. The real claim is being safe for the environment. This topic is like oil and political threads, people have very strong opinions. Maybe it's the $20+ price tag per bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojocho Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 I've had positive results, but not overwhelming. I use water wetter now. Did you "burp"the system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, whaler said: Engine ice makes no actual claims to running cooler, only may run cooler. I suspect they would not because it's made with propylene glycol which has less heat transfer than ethylene glycol. Another guy on another forum said the same thing Whaler. I think part of the results are what type of coolant the bike is designed for. If you have been using an ethylene glycol based antifreeze, then your engine will run hotter with any propylene glycol based antifreeze regardless of the additives. I believe that the Kawi brand is EG. Engine Ice is PG with some additives not found in most coolants. Damnit, I have been scammed. I will just look at the bright side, I get to spend time with my bike Saturday no matter what the weather is like!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 +1 for using engine ice in the past and not having issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfman1 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 I just use stock coolant in all my bikes, so I don't have these issues. I usually switch out my coolant every 2-3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinsn3485 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 5 hours ago, whaler said: Those who see major improvements probably removed old coolest which had lost efficiency do to corrosion and evaporation over time. coolent should be changed every two years or you run the risk of corrosion and diminished heat transfer capacity. The real claim is being safe for the environment. There is some truth to that. Though I've had positive results with Engine Ice. On my first bike I'll agree the coolant was 4 years old, but the bike only had 700 miles on it when I bought it and swappd out for EI. That was in AZ and I saw 10-15 difference in temps from stock coolant to EI. My current bike was changed out in under two years because of the positive results and I've only seen 4-5 degrees difference, but still running cooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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