TimTheAzn Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) +1 for setting it up for what you think feels best. Fuck the book. The book will get you in the ballpark most often, then fine tuning based on what you want out of the bike. But it all comes down to how you feel on it. Edited September 25, 2019 by TimTheAzn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaDoc Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, what said: Suspension settings are situational to the rider, the track, the bike, the tires, the temperature, etc. "By the book" or canned settings you find online are generally trash, you have to have someone with a feel for all of the things listed above either tell you what to do or do it for you for a properly set up suspension. @Hoblick was just telling me that Dave Moss offers a remote suspension service for a nominal fee. Ryan is also good with setting up suspensions, so if you're (Doc) ever down this way on a ride I'm sure he'd be willing to help you out. Here I am volunteering his time for him 😂 56 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: +1 for setting it up for what you think feels best. Fuck the book. The book will get you in the ballpark most often, then fine tuning based on what you want out of the bike. But it all comes down to how you feel on it. yea going by one source is usually trash, but I kind of do the "online research" going through lot of forum posts magazines youtube videos even reddit etc to come up with a starting set of numbers which seemed close to my weight and style. Then just tweak a bit during rides and just set it later on. This strategy worked for last 2 out of three bikes with adjustable suspension. But this tracer it was waaaaay off. I am talking several clicks on preload and comp rebound etc, as if entirely different bike. then again there was not much data to go by for this bike since its still pretty new. yes I saw the link on dave moss site for remote help, like 90 bucks something for 30 min consult. I wondered if I needed to be well prepared with all stands and measurement and may be even a helper before going that direction to make full use of the session. If that's the case I cant arrange that hoblick seems like a very viable option, but that guy so busy will be hard to get a time lined up. I wish to just go back with a simple machine like vstrom with no adjustments and hence no headache, just learn to ride the bike as is But noooo even in suspension world the gold color always corrupts men. 1 hour ago, Tonik said: I push a button on mine. It nails it every time. Baller Edited September 25, 2019 by NinjaDoc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted September 25, 2019 Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, NinjaDoc said: yea going by one source is usually trash, but I kind of do the "online research" going through lot of forum posts magazines youtube videos even reddit etc to come up with a starting set of numbers which seemed close to my weight and style. Then just tweak a bit during rides and just set it later on. This strategy worked for last 2 out of three bikes with adjustable suspension. But this tracer it was waaaaay off. I am talking several clicks on preload and comp rebound etc, as if entirely different bike. then again there was not much data to go by for this bike since its still pretty new. yes I saw the link on dave moss site for remote help, like 90 bucks something for 30 min consult. I wondered if I needed to be well prepared with all stands and measurement and may be even a helper before going that direction to make full use of the session. If that's the case I cant arrange that hoblick seems like a very viable option, but that guy so busy will be hard to get a time lined up. I wish to just go back with a simple machine like vstrom with no adjustments and hence no headache, just learn to ride the bike as is But noooo even in suspension world the gold color always corrupts men. Baller Having adjustment available is soooo much better than non adjustable, even if there is a little headache getting it set up initially. Suspension really is the #1 contributor to bike handling and performance. As far as the Dave Moss thing goes, Hoblick knows exactly what he will ask you, just need to say his name 3 times to summon him to this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted September 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, what said: Having adjustment available is soooo much better than non adjustable, even if there is a little headache getting it set up initially. Suspension really is the #1 contributor to bike handling and performance. As far as the Dave Moss thing goes, Hoblick knows exactly what he will ask you, just need to say his name 3 times to summon him to this thread. Dont you have a direct line to him? For as much he rides minis with you guys.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 9:53 AM, Tonik said: I push a button on mine. It nails it every time. Can you program it's settings turn by turn? https://www.aprilia.com/en_EN/technology/V4-mp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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durk Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) @TimTheAzn Dang speedy. Nice work. It’s always fun when you’re winning no matter what you’re competing in. Edited September 30, 2019 by durk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I probably should have tried to stay and race but it wasn't in the cards. Friday turned out to be a great day though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted September 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 You make my good drive out onto the back straight look like nothing . Only way I could tell it was a good one is I didnt get passed on the drive out of the corner, was pretty much straight up and down by the time you came by! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 You were doing well there, you have really picked up the pace this year. Really cool shot Marty got. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted September 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Alllllll da whoolies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 13 hours ago, durk said: @TimTheAzn Dang speedy. Nice work. It’s always fun when you’re winning no matter what you’re competing in. Was he fast, or was everyone else just slow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tonik said: Was he fast, or was everyone else just slow? Yes 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted October 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 Pic from LWT SB on Saturday. Set a new PB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) you're not fooling anyone, you clearly can't even drag knee. Edited October 2, 2019 by what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted October 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Things get more interesting when theres banking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Wish I could drag knee 😪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Some day you will be fast enough. 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted October 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Jester_ said: Wish I could drag knee 😪 2019 was the year we all went for the bow. We all failed . Theres always 2020! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester_ Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 11 hours ago, blue03636 said: Some day you will be fast enough. 🤣 3 years on the same oem a* pucks. 😬 1 hour ago, TimTheAzn said: 2019 was the year we all went for the bow. We all failed . Theres always 2020! 2019 ain't over yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted October 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jester_ said: 3 years on the same oem a* pucks. 😬 2019 ain't over yet... I have a front tire with many track days and 3 sprint races, and a rear that has life but a decent amount of heat cycles. I think I'll be taking it easy the rest of the year lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Stop with the heat cycles. This isn't 1998. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted October 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, blue03636 said: Stop with the heat cycles. This isn't 1998. 😁 Ok Mr. I've done a bagillion days on 1 rear tire on a new 1k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Seriously though, they aren't an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4iguy Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Anyone going to Barber in November? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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