Tonik Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 .....pose a 'substantial risk of serious harm'. Not a fan of the death penalty (except for Casper) but isn't that what they are supposed to do? http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2017/01/federal_judge_ohios_three-drug.html#incart_river_home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 The real harm is to liberal ideology. Do any companies have patents on carbon monoxide? Wait that would be bad for the environment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo72 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 We could just go back to shooting them. Oh wait...toxic lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: We should build a Thunder Dome replica and charge admission. Shhh, careful ,trump will do it. and Mel Gibson will pay to build it. But the pipleline will keep the rest of is from fighting over fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 We could call it the Trump Dome It will be all gold and red velvet and the referees will be hot woman!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mello dude Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 How 'bout Vodka? Inject and OD on cheap Vodka, that will do it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 4 hours ago, Isaac's Papa said: "Causes inmates to violently struggle and gasp for air..." Yeah...it's called "dying". The old method didn't do that, first drug knocked you out, second drug paralyzed you, and third drug stopped your heart... That was the humane/painless method upheld and approved by the supreme Court. Torturing people, even people you intend to kill, is a no-no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Connie14 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Heroin seems to be an effective method of injection that can kill people. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Connie14 said: Heroin seems to be an effective method of injection that can kill people. I was thinking the same thing. AltCIA twitter may have some they need to get rid of before their audit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) Thanks New York Seeking a more humane method of execution than hanging, New York built the first electric chair in 1888 and executed William Kemmler in 1890 trigger warning http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/descriptions-execution-methods?scid=8&did=479#electrocution Edited January 27, 2017 by motocat12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandering Soul Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Death sentence is usually for 1st degree murder of one or more people by whatever means. Do you think the murdered victim(s) didn't suffer and take a few minutes to die? I don't care how they execute a murderer.. Hang 'em, shoot 'em, electrocute 'em; doesn't matter. I don't care what a bunch of snowflakes think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: What if they're not guilty? 12 percent of all death row inmates are totally exonerated....not only spared the death penalty but actually determined innocent and set free. And it happens at a rate of 130 times more than general crimes. Chances are extremely high that we have murdered a great many innocent people in cold blood in the name of the death penalty. Those in favor of the death penalty are at the very least guilty of conspiracy to commit murder and should be put to death. Edited January 27, 2017 by Tonik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 I feel like we're stuck in a loop, many of these same people having the same discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Wandering Soul said: Death sentence is usually for 1st degree murder of one or more people by whatever means. Do you think the murdered victim(s) didn't suffer and take a few minutes to die? I don't care how they execute a murderer.. Hang 'em, shoot 'em, electrocute 'em; doesn't matter. I don't care what a bunch of snowflakes think. Revenge is not justice, regardless of what Hammurabi says. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, magley64 said: Revenge is not justice, regardless of what Hammurabi says. Is prison revenge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, magley64 said: I feel like we're stuck in a loop, many of these same people having the same discussion. I have been copying and pasting from my old posts for a couple of years now. Working on a way to automate it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 18 hours ago, Tonik said: We could call it the Trump Dome It will be all gold and red velvet and the referees will be scantily clad hot woman!! ftfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, magley64 said: Revenge is not justice, regardless of what Hammurabi says. Death penalty isn't revenge. It's a penalty for a crime. Penalty is even in it's name to help people understand the concept. It's a sick twisted penalty, but it is a penalty none the less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, motocat12 said: Is prison revenge? Shouldn't be. My personal view on prison is twofold. 1. Deterrent, people like freedom, they're less likely to act poorly if their freedom can be removed temporarily. 2. Segregation of dangerous individuals. Some of the people can't be trusted to live in a civilized society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tonik Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 1 minute ago, magley64 said: Shouldn't be. My personal view on prison is twofold. 1. Deterrent, people like freedom, they're less likely to act poorly if their freedom can be removed temporarily. 2. Segregation of dangerous individuals. Some of the people can't be trusted to live in a civilized society. Prison is only a deterrent for law abiding people. Segregation and punishment are all it does. Which is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) BTW OP is appealing now. How often is that said in one of tonik's threads? Edited January 27, 2017 by motocat12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Tonik said: Prison is only a deterrent for law abiding people. Segregation and punishment are all it does. Which is fine. Prison is a deterrent for anyone who values freedom... I could give a shit about laws, and break them constantly. I'm in no way "law abiding" and I'm okay with that. If there were a new law saying "anyone caught driving a Camaro will go to prison" I'd unload my car without a second thought... A Camaro matters less to me than my freedom in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magley64 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: I don't believe you and I share the same definition of "freedom". Also, you contradicted the piss out of yourself in this post. Freedom in this context means "not locked in a cage" And by all means point out my contractions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, magley64 said: And by all means point out my contractions... You oppose the death penalty for mass murders but support the death penalty for unborn children whose only crime is being in the wrong womb. HTH Edited January 27, 2017 by Tonik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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