Popular Post Tonik Posted March 2, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Go here: https://www.legislature.ohio.gov/legislators/find-my-legislators and find your Rep and Senator. Copy and past the below in. Yea, I know I caved on the earphone issue. But if we go for that at the same time we will lose on both. One thing at a time. Hello, I would like to discuss with you a needed change to Ohio law, specifically ORC 4511.84 http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/4511.84 This law prohibits the use of earphones and earplugs while riding a motorcycle. While prohibiting earphones may make sense, the prohibition on earplugs does not. This law is antiquated and does not account for the medical community’s better understanding of hearing loss and it’s causes. In fact the Ohio BMV handbook for new motorcycle riders says: “Long-term exposure to engine and wind noise can cause permanent hearing damage, even if you have a quiet motorcycle and wear a full-face helmet. Whether you choose disposable foam plugs or reusable custom-molded devices, properly worn hearing protection reduces noise, while allowing you to hear important sounds like car horns and sirens.” I have a quiet motorcycle, and I wear a full face helmet. When I don’t wear ear plugs I can clearly tell my hearing has been impacted after a day of riding. They ring and buzz, just like being at a loud concert. Yes, I ignore the law and wear ear plugs as do a great many other riders I know. One of whom just got a $95 dollar ticket for doing so. I can assure you I can hear sirens and horns. Ear plugs are selective in what noise they block. Simply put the State has a law forcing a motorcycle rider to suffer permanent hearing loss. It has no moral right to do so. 4511.84 needs to be amended with an exception for hearing protection for motorcycle riders as many other states have already done. Please let me know what I can do to help make this happen and thank you in advance for your help in this matter. Edited March 2, 2017 by Tonik Too damn many commas. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonian Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 DONE!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, Isaac's Papa said: How can I "1st World Anarchist" if they fix the law? If they fix it, I will help you find another law to ignore. I promise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 12 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: How can I "1st World Anarchist" if they fix the law? 10 minutes ago, Tonik said: If they fix it, I will help you find another law to ignore. I promise. Ok, found one. Anal is illegal in Cincy. So after they fix this head on down there and anal it up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Well there's another law I'm guilty of breaking 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Were you wearing ear plugs at the time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Done. Thanks for doing this Tonik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 22 minutes ago, Isaac's Papa said: Wow. Of all the Ohio cities, I would have never guessed Cinci. Lots of assholes here...it's a numbers thing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaCinci Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 38 minutes ago, Tonik said: Were you wearing ear plugs at the time? You got the plug part right... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiro Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 There are Website on which an online petition can be created and signed. Like change.org Would that be helpful? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo72 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, ScubaCinci said: Well there's another law I'm guilty of breaking Poor puppy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, hiro said: There are Website on which an online petition can be created and signed. Like change.org Would that be helpful? I thought about that. We would get like 50 signatures. My therory on this method is maybe one of our reps will look into it....and all the other ones we contacted will say 'yea, I heard about that..lets fix it' Edited March 2, 2017 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Emailed all of em. Even the POTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschaf Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Not worried about being arrested for wearing earplugs. How about we put an end to this speeding harassment problem, lol. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, jschaf said: Not worried about being arrested for wearing earplugs. How about we put an end to this speeding harassment problem, lol. The ear plugs will be an extra hundy when you get tagged for speeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschaf Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Not in my experience. It is a silly law though. Almost as silly as the once proposed Ohio law to require seatbelts on motorcycles. Only time I ever got a speeding ticket on a bike I was riding my cbr250r. Edited March 2, 2017 by jschaf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue72beetle Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Hahahaha you guys are funny.... thinking politicians actually listen to us. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx3vfr Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 If they fix it they'll pass it in fall session. Numb nuts will sign it November and won't go into effect 90 days later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 11 hours ago, zx3vfr said: If they fix it they'll pass it in fall session. Numb nuts will sign it November and won't go into effect 90 days later Yea, if they actually listen to us it will be tacked on to something else in the fall during silly season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 14 hours ago, blue72beetle said: Hahahaha you guys are funny.... thinking politicians actually listen to us. On April 1st I will be able to store my gun in my car at the school I work at, because the politicians listened to us. Now us gun nuts are far more organized than us motorcycle nuts but it was still a grass roots movement, not the NRA, that made this change happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 That cop that gave the ticket for wearing earplugs musta been having a bad day. I remember one incident where I was going through Rocky River and was pulled over for swerving (Early spring and avoiding pot holes and manhole covers) I literally told the officer when he walked up to me "one second, I cant hear you let me take my helmet off and my ear buds out." He said ok (I think), let me take my helmet off and my earbuds out, asked me why I was swerving, I told him, he let me go. Never said anything about ear plugs/ headphones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: That cop that gave the ticket for wearing earplugs musta been having a bad day. I got written for 13 over in Southern Ohio a couple of years ago. He didn't mind my ear plugs either. He wasn't having a bad day, he was pissed as hell. He got 911 calls on some bikes, multiple LEO's chased them down at 115 mph and 2 of them ran. So in his head it was: 'I will write you for everything I can think of and maybe you won't do this again'. Not giving any of the riders a hard time for what happened at all, just pointing out how it looked from the cops point of view. But none of that matters. This is a stupid law that accomplishes nothing other than giving a pissed off cop a way to f' with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I agree. I musta not heard the entire story. I'm assuming this was on a recent ride and a gsxr squid must have been involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durk Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 When I got pulled over last year I had earbuds in and was not ticketed for it. I kept my helmet on, however, until the very end when he handed me the ticket. I just pulled the earbud cord from my phone as soon as I pulled over. One of his 1st questions was didn't you hear me back there? I responded no, but for sure said nothing of my earbuds. He did see them, but by that time he was telling me to take it slow through Cadiz because he had radioed ahead to them. Grant it this was not a state highway patrolman. He could not have been impressed though. He thought I was running and had radioed ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 29 minutes ago, TimTheAzn said: a gsxr squid must have been involved. I'm guessing he missed his blinky lights and was trying to find a way to compensate by getting the Staties to turn theirs on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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