tall_tracy Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 10:49 PM, Tonik said: No more Ducati meet ups at Starbucks. Have to be at bars now. And all the Ducati gear will say Harley. Expand Damn it! Plus, I hate fringe... Fingers crossed that this deal falls through. I read that Ducati is actually under Audi ownership, which is still the VW conglomerate, so is dieselgate the real reason their selling?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebbors Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 1:58 PM, tall_tracy said: Damn it! Plus, I hate fringe... Fingers crossed that this deal falls through. I read that Ducati is actually under Audi ownership, which is still the VW conglomerate, so is dieselgate the real reason their selling?? Expand Might be. VW needs money. And Ducati is almost certainly worth more now than when purchased. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 1:58 PM, tall_tracy said: I read that Ducati is actually under Audi ownership, which is still the VW conglomerate, so is dieselgate the real reason their selling?? Expand The VW CEO that bought Ducati is no longer with them. Ducati was his pet project, for reasons unknown. So now that he is gone the new peeps are not interested in doing valve adjustments every weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricer1 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 1:58 PM, tall_tracy said: Damn it! Plus, I hate fringe... Fingers crossed that this deal falls through. I read that Ducati is actually under Audi ownership, which is still the VW conglomerate, so is dieselgate the real reason their selling?? Expand VW Dieselgate will cost $15 billion, this could have something to due with the sale of Duc. BTW, where will you put the fringe on the Duc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojocho Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 It's actually a good match from HD's perspective. These two brands have a strong following and strong brand recognition in their respective markets. Their names are on everything and it allows them to mark up merchandise. what other brands have names for their owners? H.O.G.s and Ducatistas. MV was too exclusive and high end and bought when the market was declining. They were expecting too much from such an exclusive brand. As long as they operate them independently, it makes sense. Hopefully they realize the demographics are very different and don't try to cross over too much. Now, from a consumer's perspective, specifically Ducatistas, i think this is terrible. HD mismanaged MV, and micro managed Buell. Ducati has done great as a business with VW's capital as support and Audi's technical knowledge. From VW's perspective, this is smart. This is a direct result from the emissions issue. Fines and costs is forcing them to raise capital while they reorganize. THe biggest losers will be the race teams. VW, with Audi's racing tech and knowledge, has been a great asset to the MotoGP and WSBK development. We'll see that change as most companies without a big racing heritage do not understand the R&D gains from racing wnd will only see costs. Just my 2 cents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tall_tracy Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 1:01 PM, Tonik said: Female Duc owners will need to get some breast work. Like reverse implants so their boobs are floppy and saggy. Expand Really?? yuck... On 6/22/2017 at 2:07 PM, ricer1 said: VW Dieselgate will cost $15 billion, this could have something to due with the sale of Duc. BTW, where will you put the fringe on the Duc? Expand Damn Germans, had to eff everything up. Perhaps the new name will be Harducly Desmodison. Ugh fringe... it's the worst... no fringe, never, not gonna do it... lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 chrome it up, byebye red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Gonna have to contact Mike and get a new half helmet too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricer1 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On the back of all Ducati shirts will have "Loud Pipes Save Lives" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Z. Heimer Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 2:42 PM, ricer1 said: On the back of all Ducati shirts will have "Loud Pipes Save Lives" Expand How bout loud clutches save lives 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Wow, it has started already. Ape hangers and fringe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 2:13 PM, mojocho said: It's actually a good match from HD's perspective. Expand I disagree. It could only work if the 2 companies operated completely separately. HD management hates sport bikes. They view them as beginner bikes, and step toward selling them a Hog when they're ready to step up to a "real" motorcycle. That's how they viewed Buell, and MV. HD being able to successfully manage Ducati would require a major shift in the goals of HD's management...who hate change. It ain't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricer1 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) On 6/22/2017 at 2:57 PM, Tonik said: Wow, it has started already. Ape hangers and fringe. Expand Is that the new Harley Duc Super Ultra Dyna Slide Glide FHXUGLY? Edited June 22, 2017 by ricer1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Z. Heimer Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 2:39 PM, Tonik said: Gonna have to contact Mike and get a new half helmet too. Expand Yes yes. They are available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 2:53 PM, Al Z. Heimer said: How bout loud clutches save lives Expand How would you know if it was the clutch or something else rattling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Here's an example of HD love of sportbikes... Years ago I was at a Buell rally, talking with a Buell insider at a campfire over beers. He was telling me about a very heated conversion during a HD/Buell marketing meeting about whether or not HD would be able to sell Buell leather vests to sportbike riders. The argument went something like... "We're Harley, we know what motorcycle riders want, and all riders want leather vests." "They'll laugh at you because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango_sv Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) On 6/22/2017 at 1:24 AM, Tonik said: We need a new name for this company. HarDucley seems promising. Expand Harley Ducatison Edited June 23, 2017 by mango_sv I'm stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 6/22/2017 at 9:51 PM, Isaac's Papa said: Expand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaDoc Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have a vague feeling Jokes aside Pauly actually hates the concept of Harley owning duc or even comparing them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 1:30 AM, Isaac's Papa said: I'll give you one guess as to how many Ducati branded items of clothing this rider owns. I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with "fucking zero". Expand This is getting too easy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue03636 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 1:30 AM, Isaac's Papa said: I'll give you one guess as to how many Ducati branded items of clothing this rider owns. I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with "fucking zero". Expand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Weren't those the flip flops you were wearing in Fontana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence1 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) On 6/22/2017 at 11:22 AM, TimTheAzn said: Did I read that right? "Harley recently returned MV Agusta to its Italian owners for 3 euros, or about $3.98, a company spokesman confirmed Monday." Expand I never believed that. I mean, yea it's real but since this happened overseas they didn't have to report it and was nothing more than some CEO's getting some under the table kickbacks at the shareholder's expense. Edited June 29, 2017 by Lawrence1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motocat12 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Share Posted June 29, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 3:51 AM, Isaac's Papa said: No. I pay $3 for flip flops. Not $300. Expand You shoulda bought MV instead. I only pay Tree fiddy for Euro motorcycle brands not Turddy Million 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted July 6, 2017 Report Share Posted July 6, 2017 Each strand of those tassels is $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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