2talltim Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I can memorize turns also and keep riding the same ones over and over again and be 1000x beter at them in due time too. On the street you have to be able to adapt to ever changing conditions. And have to leave some talent on the table for those unexpected moments. Always scanning always on alert to the ever changing conditions,terrain and obstacles. The track you go out into a mostly controlled environment. Things seldom chage and all you have to do it hit your marks and improve your line and work on being faster. Two totally differnt skill sets in my option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, 2talltim said: I can memorize turns also and keep riding the same ones over and over again and be 1000x beter at them in due time too. On the street you have to be able to adapt to ever changing conditions. And have to leave some talent on the table for those unexpected moments. Always scanning always on alert to the ever changing conditions,terrain and obstacles. The track you go out into a mostly controlled environment. Things seldom chage and all you have to do it hit your marks and improve your line and work on being faster. Two totally differnt skill sets in my option. So true. It was a big moment for me when I got the bump to intermediate group on 536. I'm 100% in A group for 800 though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, 2talltim said: I can memorize turns also and keep riding the same ones over and over again and be 1000x beter at them in due time too. On the street you have to be able to adapt to ever changing conditions. And have to leave some talent on the table for those unexpected moments. Always scanning always on alert to the ever changing conditions,terrain and obstacles. The track you go out into a mostly controlled environment. Things seldom chage and all you have to do it hit your marks and improve your line and work on being faster. Two totally differnt skill sets in my option. You are forgetting about the 20+ other riders vying for that same corner at the same time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 17 minutes ago, Pauly said: You are forgetting about the 20+ other riders vying for that same corner at the same time. Yeah when you actually "racing" at the track that's a different beast all together.Even then I think you have basic respect of the other riders around you that got the same training and experiences in the same control environments. But usually you are not dealing with that just doing track days in general. Not trying to take anything away anyone just saying the comparison we do street vs track I dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Tim you need to come try racing minis with us Cheaper and less risk than racing big bikes but still the same concept. May change your perspective a bit. Racing itself is fun, but I never realized how much I still had to work on before I starting doing track related things. This all is an effort to make myself a better rider, getting to whoop on my buddies and trash talk is just an added bonus. Seat time is seat time as long as the foundations are there. That said, I'm really considering picking up a clapped out 600 project bike and doing a couple wera races here and there within the next 2 or 3 years. Edited November 9, 2019 by what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, what said: Tim you need to come try racing minis with us Cheaper and less risk than racing big bikes but still the same concept. May change your perspective a bit. Racing itself is fun, but I never realized how much I still had to work on before I starting doing track related things. This all is an effort to make myself a better rider, getting to whoop on my buddies and trash talk is just an added bonus. Seat time is seat time as long as the foundations are there. That's just it, I have very little competitive spirit when I'm on a bike. We have very different things we are looking for when we saddle up. I don't feel I need to be better or faster, not saying there isn't room for improvements just saying don't feel the need for it. When we sit in the hotel or by the camp fire at night having some drinks I like to have conversations about where we were and what we seen and where are we going next. And the added I'm glad your here to experience it with me. I can hang with some of the best when I want to but honestly I'm not out there railing it everywhere I go. What you guys do is no doubt fun(ive said that over and over), and puts huge smiles on faces and I know it would be enjoyable but the drive in me is and always will be be. "Where can I go next" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 You talk a lot of shit for someone who is supposedly so utterly non competitive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I must be missing something, because I don't get a "track vs street" vibe on this forum. I see it as friendly mocking of that minsdet, rather than a staunchly planted "fuck track guys" flag. I see a "Groms are fucking stupid" trend, but that is because Groms are fucking stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, Pauly said: I must be missing something, because I don't get a "track vs street" vibe on this forum. I see it as friendly mocking of that minsdet, rather than a staunchly planted "fuck track guys" flag. I see a "Groms are fucking stupid" trend, but that is because Groms are fucking stupid. Fuck you groms are sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, jbot said: Fuck you groms are sweet I challenge you in all aspects of life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pauly said: I challenge you in all aspects of life. Shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Groms are not stupid. They are just Harley's for young people. Edited November 9, 2019 by Tonik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 groms are fucking stupid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Oh and it's not all about being faster. Being faster is a result of being safer. Being safer is a result of being better. Being better is a result of continually practicing all aspects of riding and applying that experience. How the fuck did this thread turn into another god damn track & street conversation anyway. Edited November 9, 2019 by what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, what said: Oh and it's not all about being faster. Being faster is a result of being safer. Being safer is a result of being better. Being better is a result of continually practicing all aspects of riding and applying that experience. How the fuck did this thread turn into another god damn track & street conversation anyway. Because you and Tim can't let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 With all the track knowledge and faster, safer training/practice, you guys should be crash proof by now. Sorry I had no idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetTodd Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I’ll pass eerone of you bitches on a Grom into that same corner while eating sketti. without rider aids. what now? I fucking love spaghetti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbot Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, 2talltim said: With all the track knowledge and faster, safer training/practice, you guys should be crash proof by now. Sorry I had no idea. It's hard to be authentically sarcastic if you're also equally clueless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Pauly said: Because you and Tim can't let it go. I didn't bring it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpoppa Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 ...and Epstein didn't kill himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 56 minutes ago, MidgetTodd said: I’ll pass eerone of you bitches on a Grom into that same corner while eating sketti. without rider aids. what now? I fucking love spaghetti Bullshit. Every bike you ride has rider AIDS. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonik Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 18 hours ago, 2talltim said: I can memorize turns also and keep riding the same ones over and over again and be 1000x beter at them in due time too. 2 hours ago, what said: Being better is a result of continually practicing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
what Posted November 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tonik said: The only truth in here is that no corners are straight. 👨❤️👨🏳️🌈👩❤️👩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2talltim Posted November 10, 2019 Report Share Posted November 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Tonik said: memorizationiziationization...fuck...must be the rum talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimTheAzn Posted November 11, 2019 Report Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/8/2019 at 3:00 PM, Uncle Punk said: If I can recall correctly the last time we rode together I ended up having a long conversation with a LEO because of your shenanigans. Forgot about that . Apparently when 2 bikes pass cars on double yellows they are considered to be racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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